Rear Fogs - correct use of...
Rear Fogs - correct use of...
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Woodster

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122 posts

290 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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This topic will almost certainly have been mentioned before, but this mornings drive to work pushed me over the edge, so I'm ranting.

Why do I feel like I'm always the bloke stuck behind the pr*ck who doesn't really understand what their rear fogs are for. I think at best the weather could have been described as 'misty', but as soon as the light mist decended, the bloke in the escort put his rear fogs on. I knew he was there, I was driving behind him in a line of cars on an A road. What could his logic possibly have been? It's misty, perhaps I need to dazzle the bloke behind and make it harder for him to see when I'm braking.
I'm prepared to be shot down here but my understanding of what rear fogs are for are for real fog when you can't see the car behind. As soon as a car comes up behind you and you recognise that they have seen you, you switch them off and hope that they switch theirs on (if they can't see the car behind them). Driving behind someone with fogs on is a nightmare and far worse if it actually is foggy (when everything goes shades or red).

Am I the only person who uses their rear fogs in this way and who has a real problem with the logic of people who reach for the switch (and probably forget they're on at all for a few days) whenever it gets misty?

abels

608 posts

309 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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Am I the only person who uses their rear fogs in this way and who has a real problem with the logic of people who reach for the switch (and probably forget they're on at all for a few days) whenever it gets misty?

You're not the only one.

pbrettle

3,280 posts

310 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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Totally agree - I cant seem to remember but the visibility needs to be something like <100M for it to justify fog lights....

Does anyone know the actual visibility from the highway code?

Cheers,

Paul

pdv6

16,442 posts

288 months

jj_work

588 posts

297 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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Fog lights are not just for use in fog. You can use them in heavy rain as well. I was at an Advanced Driving meeting once (IAM) and they confirmed this.

Highway code quote - 'You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves'

andyf007

863 posts

285 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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Sadly the Law doesn't say under what conditions you have to switch them off if visibility remains poor, but general driving etiquette would dictate that you switch them off when the following car is close enough to see you on normal lights. Most drivers seem to be blissfully unaware of their surroundings and I guess we will see fog lights on for a few more clear days yet.

The only semi-valid argument I've heard for keeping rear fogs on when being followed was that, if the following car was at a safe distance behind, then the lights wouldn't be dazzling them.

A good point, but I think I'll keep switching mine off.

Andy

alt

1,879 posts

309 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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Woodster, definitely agree with what you say.
Fog lights should be switched on/off depending on conditions and proximity of other drivers.

vtecsilver

71 posts

284 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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Totally agree - I find the weather is rarely that bad to need the use of rear foglights. I also wonder why so many people need to drive around with front foglights on - generally in all weather conditions.

loaf

850 posts

288 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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vtecsilver said: Totally agree - I find the weather is rarely that bad to need the use of rear foglights. I also wonder why so many people need to drive around with front foglights on - generally in all weather conditions.


Couldn't agree more - although score one for the good guys: Sunday night, brother-in-law picks me and the missus up from the airport and we come back through town; cnut in an E-class has full beam and front fogs on. B-i-L flashes his rear fogs to drop the hint; fella behind ignores him. B-i-L gets pissed off. This=BAD for the bloke behind as B-i-L is a who promptly gets out his warrant, stops next to the cnut in the queue for the lights, winds his window down, and reams him out for being incredibly inconsiderate, sir (sir in this case being spelt w-a-n-k-e-r) Sir promptly switches everything off except sidelights and looks suitably chastened

Yoda

9 posts

284 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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[quoteHighway code quote - 'You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves'


My understanding is that when the Highway Codes says 'MUST' then it is something that is backed up by law. When it isn't backed up then it says 'SHOULD'. I'm probably wrong though!

loaf

850 posts

288 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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My understanding is that when the Highway Codes says 'MUST' then it is something that is backed up by law. When it isn't backed up then it says 'SHOULD'. I'm probably wrong though!



You're dead right - when the HC says MUST/MUST NOT it means it, i.e. there is a statute under which you commit an offence if you do/don't do whatever's being discussed.

Citizen Rat

41 posts

284 months

Tuesday 26th November 2002
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Only ever used mine for the benefit of a following car with front fogs on. Also the only time I decide to hold my car on the foor break. Am I being awkward?