Do you support an F1 team?
Do you support an F1 team?
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thekirbyfake

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6,232 posts

252 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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I watch and follow F1 but don't have any particular allegiance to a team. I prefer certain drivers over others, certain bosses/personalities etc. but these likes/dislikes change more often than the frequency of exciting overtaking manoeuvres in the sport itself.

I was reading the Oliver Reed biography this weekend and was interested to hear he was a staunch McLaren supporter and even on the night of his death he had his usual argument with the bar owner's son, a devout Tifosi.

I enjoy most forms of motorsport but the same Swiss-like neutrality goes for BTCC (or any other TCC for that matter) and although my recent cars have had blue ovals I would no more cheer Ford than Subaru around the Welsh forests.

When I watch a football game and I don't care about the winner it's not as enjoyable as if I'm watching my beloved Luton Town (unfortunately the football equivalent of a struggling F3000 race team)

Am I missing out?

anonymous-user

71 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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ish. I kind of follow BAR becasue I like their attitude, especially when they arrived on the scene but I will always cheer for Ferrari becasue i was brought up that way. Apparently when Chris Rea was watching motorsport as a child he asked his fater which cars they were supporting and his father said "the red ones son". I guess its kind of like that, i love the ferrari philosophy of building road cars to fund the racing cars when Enzo stopped racing Maseratis to start Ferrari. Ferraris srill invoke that kind of pasion. At the A1GP race, my brother, his friend and I all had our day made by the sight and sound of the 312T3 through the woods.

Eric Mc

124,109 posts

282 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Lotus - but they are alas no more

Enzo Ferrari never raced or ran Maseratis in competition. He was the team manager of Alfa Romeo in the 1930s and ran the outfit as "Scuderia Ferrari". After a falling out with Alfa, he decided to build his own cars. World War 2 intervened so true Ferrari racing sports and GP cars did not appear until the late 1940s.
In the era before sponsorhip, one way of funding your racing activities was to build limited production road cars. Ferrari was not unique in doing this. Indeed, in the UK, that was the route Lotus followed.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 14th December 09:46

rubystone

11,254 posts

276 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I'm a stauch fan of Aguri Suzuki F1 - ever since the sad and untimely demise of Andrea Moda, the sport just hasn't been the same. Simtek and Pacific just couldn't fill that gap - but it looks like Aguri's going to be the man and I can't wait for his state of the art F1 cars to hit the grid. A contact in the business tells me that the team is running a "virtual keel" concept for the front wing specifically with Sato in mind. Apparently at the end of the first lap, the front wing is jettisoned automatically, regardles of whether contact with another car has been made or not. BMW-Sauber are thought to be working on their own version for Villeneuve with technical advisor Andrea de Cesaris.

Eric Mc

124,109 posts

282 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I loved De Ceasaris' reply to the question he was posed prior to the recent GP Master's race -

Journo - "When is the last time you drove competiively in a race?"

De Cesaris - "Let me think.........never?"

I love self deprecating humour.

ahonen

5,030 posts

296 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I used to follow drivers more than teams - Ronnie Peterson then Piquet, so I was something of a Brabham fan in the early '80s, I guess.

McLaren is my favourite team, though. I've always loved their colourschemes and, apart from the ghastly MP4-10, they've always made some of the best looking cars - this year's looks superb, especially with the 'Viking horns' on the airbox. They also have a pretty fair attitude to racing.

You can't help but admire Ron Dennis and what he's achieved, having started life as nothing more than a mechanic. I admire Frank Williams in the same way, hae was operating out of a phone box in his early days, because he couldn't afford a phone.

thekirbyfake

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6,232 posts

252 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I'm also a great lover of NBA and I guess the "franchise" idea is similar to motorsport. The owners of the Charlotte Hornets who we're (unsurprisingly) based in Charlotte decided to up and move their franchise to New Orleans and became the New Orleans Hornets. Then a new team, the Charlotte Bobcats, started up in Charlotte.

Do the residents of Charlotte switch teams?

Trackside

1,777 posts

250 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I am more of a 'supporter' of a driver than a particular team. Started with Villeneuve (Gilles, of course) then Keke Rosberg and onto Jean Alesi. No-one since Alesi has really captured my imagination for long enough for me to be considered a supporter. I will generally cheer on the Brits and, because I met him once and we're the same age, I particularly followed Allan McNish's brief foray into F1. Top sportscar driver though!

I think today's F1 stars are really just too anodyne, too corporate to really get behind them for the reasons one used to i.e. a flamboyant style on track and character off the track. It's a shame but if you want to see how motorsport stars could be more interesting, MotoGP.

Frik

13,639 posts

260 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Yes, my local one.

gopher

5,160 posts

276 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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McLaren is the team I always shout for, but I can also shout for drivers of other teams (I do tend to shout for Brits regardless of talent). TBH I think I'm a Ron Dennis fan more than anything, but also have great respect for Frank Williams. Never been a Ferrari fan (but love their road cars). Also shout for BAR, as has been said above, I like their attitude.

Cheers

Paul

Killer2005

20,276 posts

245 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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Dont really support anyone, just enjoy some good racing

The Wiz

5,875 posts

279 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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Can't be watching F1 then.

Personally I've alwayas followed Ferrari.

tollytuff

991 posts

248 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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i started off as a james hunt fan, a proper young boys hero. now i would always prefer one of the british teams to be out in front. especially a williams, i love frank and patricks attitude towards the sport, they love racing. plenty of other teams (ferrari included) are just there to sell cars.

i also like sportsmen and sportsmanship, which is why i find it so easy to like coulthard. i have never, and will never ever cheer 'those bloody red cars'. except when they cruise to a halt at the side of the track...

iaint

10,040 posts

255 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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Any team that's not French really...

Code Monkey

3,316 posts

274 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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work in woking, have always supported McLaren since they were in marlboro colours and i wanted Senna to win, mainly as my Dad supported prost, and a little of going my own way was a good thing.

colouring has always been the most dynamic, and visually with the most impact, which regardless of how you think about it always gives the most direction when you are looking at the teams

anonymous-user

71 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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i think mclarens have looked dire since they turned silver. but then modern F1 cars look dire in comparison to the marlboro clad cars of the early 90s...

i thought the Prost looked nice in the deep blue and of course, the jordan in green but they are all much of a same these days as little sponsorship deals ruin the effect of a cars lines.

thekirbyfake

Original Poster:

6,232 posts

252 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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tollytuff said:
Ferrari are just there to sell cars

I always thought it was generally accepted that Ferrari sold cars to fuel their racing?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,327 posts

252 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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pablo said:
i think mclarens have looked dire since they turned silver. but then modern F1 cars look dire in comparison to the marlboro clad cars of the early 90s...

i thought the Prost looked nice in the deep blue and of course, the jordan in green but they are all much of a same these days as little sponsorship deals ruin the effect of a cars lines.


The fashion guide to F1

anonymous-user

71 months

Friday 16th December 2005
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
pablo said:
i think mclarens have looked dire since they turned silver. but then modern F1 cars look dire in comparison to the marlboro clad cars of the early 90s...

i thought the Prost looked nice in the deep blue and of course, the jordan in green but they are all much of a same these days as little sponsorship deals ruin the effect of a cars lines.


The fashion guide to F1


hell yeah!, now if the drivers could develop a sense of individuality we would be ok! as it is, they all look like robots bar Trulli and Villeneuve

Eric Mc

124,109 posts

282 months

Friday 16th December 2005
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Ferrari did sell road cars to support their racing. But that is in the old pre-sponsorhip days. Ferrari was bought by Fiat in 1967 and ever since then it has been the other way round, Ferrari have raced to help sell Ferrari (and my subliminal implication) Fiat road cars.