Iranian leader denies Holocaust
Iranian leader denies Holocaust
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rich1231

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17,340 posts

290 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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see
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4527142


hmmmmmmmmm nice guy.

It must be comedy politics day or something. That is the sort of nonsense line you expect from a child not a leader.

Jaglover

46,814 posts

265 months

Marki

15,763 posts

300 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Hes such a dangerous Mong its just not true

scorp

8,783 posts

259 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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rich1231 said:
It must be comedy politics day or something. That is the sort of nonsense line you expect from a child not a leader.

He's in good company, Kim Jong Il or whatever talks some right b****cks too.

Perhaps if we stop antogonising the Iranians with veiled threats and implications of invasion in our media then they might pipe down a bit.

r988

7,498 posts

259 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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SHOCKING NEWS: Political leader talks a load of bollox!


You'd never get that in a civilised country, oh wait...

catretriever

2,090 posts

272 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I couldn't believe that when I read it. How can anyone deny that the Holocaust happened?

I tell you what, I'm going to deny that the Crusades happened. In fact, I think I'll just deny that Iran exists at all. La La La, i can't hear you! If I close my eyes I'm invisible!

alexkp

16,484 posts

274 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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You have to remember that most of the middle east, including Iran and Iraq sided with Hitler and the Nazis in WW2 against the allies. Therefore they actually fought against our troops and allied themselves with the perpetrators of the holocaust.

A fact that is often overlooked.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Of course he's going to deny it.....everyone knows it was the Germans

ZR1cliff

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279 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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vetteheadracer said:
Of course he's going to deny it.....everyone knows it was the Germans


Now now ,thats not PC,it was the Nazis

Witchfinder

6,388 posts

282 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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IIRC, "Holocaust Denial" is classed as a hate-crime in many countries, and can result in you going to jail!

r988

7,498 posts

259 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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ZR1cliff said:
vetteheadracer said:
Of course he's going to deny it.....everyone knows it was the Germans


Now now ,thats not PC,it was the Nazis


Who were German...

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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r988 said:
ZR1cliff said:
vetteheadracer said:
Of course he's going to deny it.....everyone knows it was the Germans


Now now ,thats not PC,it was the Nazis


Who were German...



"Adolf Hitler, the leader of Nazi Germany, was born on April 20th 1889 in a small Austriantown called Braunau, near to the German border."

stumartin

1,706 posts

267 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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esselte said:
r988 said:
ZR1cliff said:
vetteheadracer said:
Of course he's going to deny it.....everyone knows it was the Germans


Now now ,thats not PC,it was the Nazis


Who were German...



"Adolf Hitler, the leader of Nazi Germany, was born on April 20th 1889 in a small Austriantown called Braunau, near to the German border."




I don't remember reading that Adolf ever personally stepped in to help man the shower rooms in Birkenau...

But, nevertheless - not all Nazis were German, not all Germans were Nazis. And, let's not get started on this argument

ZR1cliff

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279 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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To me it was one nutter commanding a bunch of lunatics to carry out extermination,and with the Third Riech,Gestapo, "Wafen SS" etc etc behind you there was really nothing any decent German could do about it,thats if they knew about what was going on.

Ecks Ridgehead

4,285 posts

258 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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catretriever said:
I couldn't believe that when I read it. How can anyone deny that the Holocaust happened?


Amazingly, some do: Wikipedia article

polus

4,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I cant believe that...dear god!

I didnt know that much about the details of WW2, this helped:

www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00005NOOH/ref=dp_primary-product-display_0/002-0703901-5575235?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=130&s=dvd

Perhaps the prick should order a copy.

Jaglover

46,814 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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ZR1cliff said:
To me it was one nutter commanding a bunch of lunatics to carry out extermination,and with the Third Riech,Gestapo, "Wafen SS" etc etc behind you there was really nothing any decent German could do about it,thats if they knew about what was going on.


Many 'decent' Germans were involved, if not in the extermination of the Jews then certainly in war crimes. Countless atrocities were committed on the Eastern front by regular German army units.

Max Hastings summed it up best, in his recent book on the fall of the Third Reich, 'if every German guilty of war crimes had been executed after the war it would have required killings on a Stalinist scale'.

There is a tendency to treat this as if some small group had hijacked the state; it was far more pervasive than that.

polus

4,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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ZR1cliff said:
To me it was one nutter commanding a bunch of lunatics to carry out extermination,and with the Third Riech,Gestapo, "Wafen SS" etc etc behind you there was really nothing any decent German could do about it,thats if they knew about what was going on.


Yeah I agree, it was VERY clerverly done.

polus

4,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Jaglover said:
ZR1cliff said:
To me it was one nutter commanding a bunch of lunatics to carry out extermination,and with the Third Riech,Gestapo, "Wafen SS" etc etc behind you there was really nothing any decent German could do about it,thats if they knew about what was going on.


Many 'decent' Germans were involved, if not in the extermination of the Jews then certainly in war crimes. Countless atrocities were committed on the Eastern front by regular German army units.

Max Hastings summed it up best, in his recent book on the fall of the Third Reich, 'if every German guilty of war crimes had been executed after the war it would have required killings on a Stalinist scale'.

There is a tendency to treat this as if some small group had hijacked the state; it was far more pervasive than that.


True but that mindset evolved from a constant feed of propaganda and hatred towards the Jews when Germany was in a poor state before the war.

Obviously I don’t mean to undermine the seriousness of the actions of many.

>> Edited by polus on Wednesday 14th December 14:13

ZR1cliff

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279 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Jaglover said:
ZR1cliff said:
To me it was one nutter commanding a bunch of lunatics to carry out extermination,and with the Third Riech,Gestapo, "Wafen SS" etc etc behind you there was really nothing any decent German could do about it,thats if they knew about what was going on.


Many 'decent' Germans were involved, if not in the extermination of the Jews then certainly in war crimes. Countless atrocities were committed on the Eastern front by regular German army units.

Max Hastings summed it up best, in his recent book on the fall of the Third Reich, 'if every German guilty of war crimes had been executed after the war it would have required killings on a Stalinist scale'.

There is a tendency to treat this as if some small group had hijacked the state; it was far more pervasive than that.


I take in what you are saying but i would imagine that the Russian Army units didnt stick too much to certain parts of the "Geneva convention" on the Eastern front either,that was probably one of the fiecest battles in history.