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Tvr-Trail

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5 posts

248 months

Saturday 24th December 2005
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I just noticed on the new tvr website that the Sagaris is quoted as producing 380bhp. Are they now being de-tuned? or was 406bhp an optimistic estimation.... Compliments of the season, to you all.

mclark

582 posts

257 months

Sunday 25th December 2005
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But how many sagaris actually produce 400bhp? I thought the 380 mark was nearer the actual figure.

I think the site is a vast improvement over the old one...............

Michael

Tvr-Trail

Original Poster:

5 posts

248 months

Wednesday 28th December 2005
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Has anyone actually dyno'd tha sagaris, are we taking it on face value?

alloypearltam

9,586 posts

264 months

Wednesday 28th December 2005
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Or perhaps with the adjusted power outputs, it leaves a nice slot for a 400 BHP Cerbera Mk2 or Typhon.

the pits

4,290 posts

261 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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Interesting... I wondered whether they had detuned for increased reliability but the performance claims remain exactly the same, then again that doesn't mean much.

The figure for the standard 3.6 remains the same. Having owned more than one 350bhp car before I can say the tams and t350's do feel all of 350bhp.

I think the website is an improvement but it's still a little dull for cars that are anything but. If I had anything to do with it there'd be no end of film footage of the cars being built and driven (hard) and plenty of sounds. I guess these things cost money but the internet is a very important tool for selling cars as it's the first port of call for prospective owners.

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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the pits said:
If I had anything to do with it there'd be no end of film footage of the cars being built and driven (hard) and plenty of sounds. I guess these things cost money but the internet is a very important tool for selling cars as it's the first port of call for prospective owners.


...such footage does exist. [Very] rough cut here - cobbled together to demo the sound/camera angles etc. from a shoot at Kirkistown in Northern Ireland. Tamora, T350, Tuscan, Sagaris all filmed on the same day.

Photos of the cars should look like this on the site (ie not on dull grey with tyre prints and oil splashes on the floor):



the pits

4,290 posts

261 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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that's much more like it phil! I hope it gets on the sight.

is it on pistonheadstv yet?

my guess is that the soundtrack was chosen during the 'orgasmic living' era?!

targarama

14,712 posts

304 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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LOL! the new website says the T350 takes 63 litres of fuel.

Good effort by TVR getting the website updated, lets hope it continues to evolve this time instead of a change then nothing for 2 years. Anything is better than the last website with the infuriating links along the top - they were a bugger at letting you get to the submenus.

Nice video Phil - is that the original Mr Blue press car? (the plate makes me think so). What is the name of the colour? It looks great in the sunlight.

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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the pits said:
that's much more like it phil! I hope it gets on the sight.

is it on pistonheadstv yet?

my guess is that the soundtrack was chosen during the 'orgasmic living' era?!


Who knows if the video stuff will ever see the light of day?

I'd told the video guys I only listen to 70s tracks in my Lambo... So nothing to do with Orgasmic Living, just a little 'surprise' they sprang on me!

Mr Blue is Lazer Blue (Lotus colour IIRC). Does look good in the sun.

alloypearltam

9,586 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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I can't get Phil's video to open and run.

the pits

4,290 posts

261 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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While you're over here Phil, sorry to hijack the thread, but I'd be interested in your views on cutting out the Sagaris vents. Is this something the factory would entertain or am I better off going elsewhere? Or am I better off not doing it at all?

lundinoir

633 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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BossCerbera said:
...a shoot at Kirkistown in Northern Ireland. Tamora, T350, Tuscan, Sagaris all filmed on the same day.


Do you have the Tamora footage?

dinkel

27,585 posts

279 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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TVR said:
"Now, the Speed Six engine, in various guises, is at the heart of every current TVR model.

And here is the point.

Every TVR car is now TVR-powered. Every TVR is a true thoroughbred sports car powered by Blackpool-built engines, all with serious motor racing provenance.

This is all the more remarkable when compared with the efforts of other Great British marques that have fallen into the hands of volume manufacturers. In the same decade that TVR declared full independence, every other Great British marque went the other way, sharing engines with sister marques.

This 'reverse trend' runs deeper than simply striking cars that look like no others, powered by special engines that provide driving and performance characteristics like no others. Climb inside a TVR . . . "


No Yank V8 then . . .

TVR said:
TVR. Passion. Pride. Performance. Now with a dash of practicality.


Are you serious?

Strange to see the 'wrong' exhausts on the Saggy. Orders were cancelled because the exhausts were changed to a 'regular' position.

The big pics look fine to me, sorry.

TVR said:
So 2006 is going to be another big year for TVR, and we will have further exciting announcements to make throughout the year.


I wish 'em all the luck in the world. Or should I say UK?

the pits

4,290 posts

261 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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Dude, where's my thread?



BossCerbera

8,188 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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1. I don't have the Tamora footage. It's similar material to the Sagaris - tracking, panning, car2car, on-board etc.. It was a black Tamora.
2. Sagaris vents. "Just" cutting them out will weaken the wings. The original dev cars had all kinds of small panels lurking under there. It's your car... I wouldn't cut them out, personally. I did see somebody's car with black vinyl in the slots that looked pretty convincing - if a bit embarrassing when you twigged what you were looking at.

tweety

829 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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I think Peninsulas red demonstrator has vinyl in the recesses, made to look like sports mesh, looked good until you got right up close. What about trying to get one of the original bodies from the factory that is just lying in the back yard rotting away.

Al.

dvpeace

611 posts

261 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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I was underwelmed by the new site. As has been said, it did not sell the cars.... what happened to the select the options you like and get a quote.

DJC

23,563 posts

257 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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dinkel said:
TVR said:
"Now, the Speed Six engine, in various guises, is at the heart of every current TVR model.

And here is the point.

Every TVR car is now TVR-powered. Every TVR is a true thoroughbred sports car powered by Blackpool-built engines, all with serious motor racing provenance.

This is all the more remarkable when compared with the efforts of other Great British marques that have fallen into the hands of volume manufacturers. In the same decade that TVR declared full independence, every other Great British marque went the other way, sharing engines with sister marques.

This 'reverse trend' runs deeper than simply striking cars that look like no others, powered by special engines that provide driving and performance characteristics like no others. Climb inside a TVR . . . "


No Yank V8 then . . .

TVR said:
TVR. Passion. Pride. Performance. Now with a dash of practicality.


Are you serious?

Strange to see the 'wrong' exhausts on the Saggy. Orders were cancelled because the exhausts were changed to a 'regular' position.

The big pics look fine to me, sorry.

TVR said:
So 2006 is going to be another big year for TVR, and we will have further exciting announcements to make throughout the year.


I wish 'em all the luck in the world. Or should I say UK?


? What's wrong? You dont like the practicality angle? I cant fault the Sagaris in that respect, considering what it is it is amazingly practical. An astoundingly good GT car, far, far better I suspect than TVR ever expected or intended. Make no mistake though, it is an extremely practical motor. It is my everyday car at the moment also...oh and Im down in Kent and y'all know what weather we just had.

dinkel

27,585 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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DJC said:
? What's wrong? You dont like the practicality angle? I cant fault the Sagaris in that respect, considering what it is it is amazingly practical. An astoundingly good GT car, far, far better I suspect than TVR ever expected or intended. Make no mistake though, it is an extremely practical motor. It is my everyday car at the moment also...oh and Im down in Kent and y'all know what weather we just had.


Nothing's wrong, but a sportscarcompany shouldn't use practicality as a unique selling point. Besides that it's not a really that sexy arguement . . .

DJC

23,563 posts

257 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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dinkel said:
DJC said:
? What's wrong? You dont like the practicality angle? I cant fault the Sagaris in that respect, considering what it is it is amazingly practical. An astoundingly good GT car, far, far better I suspect than TVR ever expected or intended. Make no mistake though, it is an extremely practical motor. It is my everyday car at the moment also...oh and Im down in Kent and y'all know what weather we just had.


Nothing's wrong, but a sportscarcompany shouldn't use practicality as a unique selling point. Besides that it's not a really that sexy arguement . . .


They arent using it as a USP, it is an added bonus. Porsche have used it for yrs and for yrs it has swung it for 911s to owners who would probably have gone elsewhere. Practicality sells. GTs sell. The Sagaris was original marketed/aimed more at the hardcore road/track "extreme" market, a few months down the line and suddenly people are waking up that what it actually is a bloody good GT. At a single stroke you have just doubled/tripled/quadrupled your market and in that situation practicality is an absolute must as a selling point. Throw in the new 3yr warranty and the "new" increased quality and you should be banging the practicality drum as hard as you can. Porsche have done it for yrs and yrs and yrs. Moleskins is aiming at Porsche, he wants Porsche buyers, he wants to break into the non-petrolhead buyers market. He wants the moneyed muppets brigade, they have disposable cash to spend and more of it than old school TVR "enthusiasts". In that respect, yes, practicality and "not looking a tw@t because the car is broke or the golf clubs dont fit" sells.