I finally get it.
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Jamassey

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584 posts

261 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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I had a Boxster S previously, and always knew that from an engineering point of view, it was very very good, but it never gave me the 'tingles'. I'd heard Clarkson wang on about 'soul' but until recently never really knew what he meant.

I've had the Trev for a little over a week, had a couple of start-up issues, but i now completely and utterly understand what I've read in these forums.

Once the engine has warmed up, i forget everything (the will it / won't it start question, my fiance whinging about hating the colour, and so on... ) and really really get in to it. I put my foot down, and i'm actually shouting how much I love it! Gave it a good spank on the A3 coming back to London today, and everything about it... even the driving position is brilliant.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Very glad i joined the club, and looking forward to coming a meet sometime soon.

James.

chris watton

22,545 posts

281 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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Nice post!

'Tis true, you don't really 'Get It' until you actually own and drive one of these cars, they do have soul and bags of charicter, and, if set up correctly, go and handle as well as anything else out there. Everything about the cars, whether how they look inside and out, or sound, are like nothing else you see on the roads, everytime I drive mine, doesn't matter if I'm driving it hard or just pootling about, it always feels like a unique experience.

the pits

4,290 posts

261 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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they are the most addictive driving machines out there! enjoy!

hood

1,286 posts

244 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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That's a lovely looking car you have there James.
Glyn.

alloypearltam

9,586 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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chris watton said:
Nice post!

'Tis true, you don't really 'Get It' until you actually own and drive one of these cars, they do have soul and bags of charicter, and, if set up correctly, go and handle as well as anything else out there. Everything about the cars, whether how they look inside and out, or sound, are like nothing else you see on the roads, everytime I drive mine, doesn't matter if I'm driving it hard or just pootling about, it always feels like a unique experience.


Interesting post Chris, question is how do you know if your car is set up correctly? I remember back in October when I took the car up to Moreton In Marsh, I took a detour to Bibury, anyway to cut a long story short the car handled so poorly on the uneven road surface that I was left for dead by a MK4 Golf GTI. I for one don't know if that is right or wrong. Likewise I feel that the fuel economy on our Tam is poor (21 MPG regardless of using 5th gear to sit on the motorway), now I have x person telling me that 21 is about right and I have y person saying that doesn't sound right, particularly as you are getting that at motorway speed.

Certainly I don't wish to appear negative, I am just trying to work out if the car is set up correctly or if I my experience is not what it should be.

chris watton

22,545 posts

281 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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alloypearltam said:
chris watton said:
Nice post!

'Tis true, you don't really 'Get It' until you actually own and drive one of these cars, they do have soul and bags of charicter, and, if set up correctly, go and handle as well as anything else out there. Everything about the cars, whether how they look inside and out, or sound, are like nothing else you see on the roads, everytime I drive mine, doesn't matter if I'm driving it hard or just pootling about, it always feels like a unique experience.


Interesting post Chris, question is how do you know if your car is set up correctly? I remember back in October when I took the car up to Moreton In Marsh, I took a detour to Bibury, anyway to cut a long story short the car handled so poorly on the uneven road surface that I was left for dead by a MK4 Golf GTI. I for one don't know if that is right or wrong. Likewise I feel that the fuel economy on our Tam is poor (21 MPG regardless of using 5th gear to sit on the motorway), now I have x person telling me that 21 is about right and I have y person saying that doesn't sound right, particularly as you are getting that at motorway speed.

Certainly I don't wish to appear negative, I am just trying to work out if the car is set up correctly or if I my experience is not what it should be.


Having the geometry sorted at every service/tyre change is a must, the difference between a wrongly set up sportscar, and correctly aligned one is chalk and cheese. I have driven mine in the most appaling road conditions, and mine stops in a straight line, even if I apply too much throttle (on purpose), it goes off in a straight line!
My fuel economy has been poor since its last service (), running very rich, something I shall get sorted at the next service - I can definitly confirm that, even running rich, my Tam (and all S6 cars) do have much better fuel economy than the old V8 cars - I know this because my TVRs are used virtually everyday.

alloypearltam

9,586 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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Mmm interesting. So Chris what fuel economy do you get?

chris watton

22,545 posts

281 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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alloypearltam said:
Mmm interesting. So Chris what fuel economy do you get?


About the same as your's, at the moment, it was better on fuel before my last service, that I'm stone cold sure of. (when you drive the car the same distance, day in day out, you just know!)

l1off

3,632 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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alloypearltam said:
Mmm interesting. So Chris what fuel economy do you get?


I've just calculated my Saggy's consumpsion on a full to empty tank to be 23.4 mpg (various driving conditions from motorway to town). I would have thought that the Tam should be around the same.

Alan

alloypearltam

9,586 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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Alan, thanks for this. The reason I have thought something was not right and hence my question is that when I first collected the car it was returning 28 MPG, then as the miles have increased I noticed that whatever the driving conditions town, country, motorway it would only return 21 ish.

targarama

14,711 posts

304 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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I'm getting 22-23 in mixed driving, 26-28 on a motorway run depending on speed of cruise - 26 at 90-100mph cruise. So I'd say 21 is about right, 28 would be right for gentle running in driving.

alloypearltam

9,586 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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Im still not 100%. Our driving style hasn't really changed much since the running in period, mainly because of the weather and not knowing the capabilities of the product. Indeed I was told our driving style was the reason the car "didn't feel that quick" (not really exceeding 3K RPM) So taking into account the majority of the cars journey is on the M4 running at 70-80 or on A roads 40-50 I would have thought 21 was rather poor, but of course I could be wrong.




>> Edited by alloypearltam on Monday 2nd January 18:31

sideways mostly

2,681 posts

262 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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I get about the same as you as well. I had an Elise before the TVR's which had a 1.8 litre engine and did about 38-40 mpg.The T350 has a 3.6 litre engine with all other prameters being the same e.g. throttle position I would expect an engine twice the size to use roughly twice the fuel-if not where does the additional power over a 1.8 litre come from. 21 mpg from the T350 sounded about right to me and I never questioned it. No doubt there are exceptions to this but it doesn't sound to me that you have a problem.

alloypearltam

9,586 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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Probably only because I got 27 - 30 out of the M3 and Boxster or a regular basis. Don't get me wrong I wasn't expecting to get those sort of figures out of the Tamora, but I did think I would get 25ish.