350D - Where from and what...
350D - Where from and what...
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pulsatingstar

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1,719 posts

271 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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I have about 1k I can spend (no I dont have to spend all of it).

Think ive decided on a 350D, is there anywhere decent to buy one from (ie cheapest place).

Ive seen quite a few packs available too with different things. Any advice generally on what would be best to go for would be appreciated, as Ive never had anything like this and dont really understand what everything means at the moment.

Cheers
Lee

rude girl

6,937 posts

282 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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IIRC, there've been a lot of people discussing this since something like the beginning of December. You could have a quick surf back while you're waiting for the most up-to-date info to turn up on this page.

johnirving

63 posts

305 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Bristol Cameras (have a look on google for them) always tend to be the cheapest and also have a 'physical' shop as well as the website for that added comfort!!

John.

matrs

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306 months

Pulsatingstar

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271 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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Thanks this is useful.

Can anyone offer a bit of advice on lenses. Someone I know to be pretty handy with a camera suggested to me to get the 350d body+lens kit and then maybe a Cannon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM as a zoom lense.

Discussed this with the people at work though, and they didnt think the lense was a good idea. This is my main stumbling point now, just know what lense(s) to get with it.

beano500

20,854 posts

298 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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Pulsatingstar said:
... they didnt think the lense was a good idea.
Why not?

What do you want to shoot?

johnirving

63 posts

305 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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It depends what you want to shoot.

I got the 350D body-only option and then got a Tamron 18-200mm (remember that's the eqivalent of a 28-320mm in real terms as Canon D-SLR's have a 1.6x magnification already) which I love as I'm not out for professional quality photos (hence why I don't have one lens for each occasion, each costing £'000's!).

The Tamron is good as can be used for all situations be it landscape or chasing cars at Le Mans and saves carrying/forgetting to carry other lenses with you.

It cost £249 from Bristol Camera's and gives perfect results. Sigma also do an 18-200mm for you'd rather try that one.

John.

Pulsatingstar

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Saturday 7th January 2006
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beano500 said:
Pulsatingstar said:
... they didnt think the lense was a good idea.
Why not?

What do you want to shoot?


Well I guess ill mainly be taking photos cof cars and race tracks, or using it for still type stuffo n holiday. They said that 300 seemed a bit long and you wouldnt be able to keep it still without a tripod or something, and also that particular lense wasnt the best quality.

They are bringing some in next week for me to try out though, so hopefully ill get a better idea then.

johnirving

63 posts

305 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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The 75-300mm would effectively be a 120-480mm lens on the 350D body, so no, you probably couln't hold it without a tripod.

A 200mm (320mm on the 350D) would be fine though in day light.

John.


>> Edited by johnirving on Saturday 7th January 17:09

rude girl

6,937 posts

282 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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johnirving said:
The 75-300mm would effectively be a 120-480mm lens on the 350D body, so no, you probably couln't hold it without a tripod.


I don't have any problems in good light.

Mwad7

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244 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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[quote]so no, you probably couln't hold it without a tripod. [/quote]

Eh? It's an image-stabilised lens. The old 75-300 IS USM is supposedly good for approximately 2-stops improvement in the shutter-speed needed to take a steady shot (so - by rule of thumb - 1/60th or faster should be OK).

<edited to say>Even if you take the 'effective' focal-length of 480mm into account, the slowest you could get away with drops from 1/500th to 1/125th - and that opens up the possibilities considerably</edited>

But...

the 75-300 has been replaced by a 70-300 stabilised lens - and this uses a later generation of stabilisation that is supposed to give you up to 3 stops (so down to 1/30th or faster before shake becomes an issue). It's also a bit quicker to focus than the old lens.

I'm seriously considering it for my 350D - there are a couple of places selling @ £370 (not forgetting that you should add another £20ish for the lens-hood and £30ish for a decent protective filter). Stock availability is a bit of a problem though.

Trouble is - £370 is alarmingly-close to the £480ish for the 70-200 F4 'L' lens...

>> Edited by Mwad7 on Sunday 8th January 18:40

RobDickinson

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277 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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I'm looking at the 70-300 IS too.

Seems to give nearly as good images as the 70-200f4L , 100extra mm and IS, slightly slower at the long end(but longer).

Downsides are build quality and rotating end.

IS will help at 300mm(480mm?) somewhat.

joust

14,622 posts

282 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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johnirving said:
Bristol Cameras (have a look on google for them) always tend to be the cheapest and also have a 'physical' shop as well as the website for that added comfort!!
John.
Ditto www.parkcameras.com/

J

monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

265 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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johnirving said:
The 75-300mm would effectively be a 120-480mm lens on the 350D body, so no, you probably couln't hold it without a tripod.

A 200mm (320mm on the 350D) would be fine though in day light.


I don't have any problems hand-holding a 100-400L IS down to 1/250th in reasonable light, so the 75-300IS will be easy.

For what it's worth, the new 70-300 IS is getting better reviews than the old model.

>> Edited by monkeyhanger on Sunday 8th January 22:49

johnirving

63 posts

305 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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Sorry, didn't realise it had IS, but still quite long in low light.

John.

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

271 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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How low light do you want to go??? I handhold both the 70-300 DO IS and the 100-400L IS in varying light and have had some good pictures with the 100-400 at less than 1/100 at 400mm. With the 350D you can go up to 1600ISO and it's still very acceptable, that allied with an IS lens is more than passable.

To give you an example, here are some pictures taken at a badly-lit speedway event with the 20D and the 100-400

www.pbase.com/baguleys/speedway

In particular this was at ISO 3200, but the important point is that it was at 400mm and 1/60s!!! I wanted it grainy for the effect I was looking for so didn't mind the 3200ISO - 1600ISO will look slightly better than this on your 350D. I also wanted 1/60 for the panning blur it gives.



For extremes, here's rex taken at 1/25s at 400mm (he's using a 70-300DO IS, they are fantastically small)



>> Edited by Bee_Jay on Monday 9th January 15:58

pulsatingstar

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Thursday 12th January 2006
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Well I have the camera now, so ill try and wait a few days before asking stupid questions and posting poor pictures up.

Thanks for all the advice.