Short term property solution
Short term property solution
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miniandy

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1,512 posts

267 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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I need to get out of my current flat. My new place will not be finished until May '07, about 6 months later than my worst case scenario date. Do I rent in the short term (not ideal), or buy for a year and sell once it is time to pay for the new place?

Any advice appreciated! Cheers


edited for typo

>> Edited by miniandy on Thursday 5th January 13:15

egomeister

7,603 posts

293 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Surely a 6mth/1year rent would be cheaper and easier than buying and paying stamp duty/fees/surveys etc if you are only planning on keeping the property short term?

miniandy

Original Poster:

1,512 posts

267 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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This is what I need to find out - how can I find out the costs for comparison?

Cheers

Axeman30

9,325 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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egomeister said:
Surely a 6mth/1year rent would be cheaper and easier than buying and paying stamp duty/fees/surveys etc if you are only planning on keeping the property short term?




bloody hell for just one year the transaction costs would be brutal. What level of stamp duty would you pay? Plus the suverys and legal fees. Unless prices are rocketing where you live?

Piglet

6,250 posts

285 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Too many unknowns to be able to give good advice.

Renting is not always throwing money away - if you need to raise a mortgage to buy a temporary place then you'll be paying interest on that - can you rent for a similar amount of money?

You have to pay that nice Mr Brown Stamp Duty on your new purchase you then have to pay the nice Estate Agent commission to flog it for you. Plus solicitors fees at either end of it.

What's the market like in your area?? The forecasts are for the market to stay fairly flat with perhaps a percent or two increase this year - if you're paying out interest on a mortgage and the property isn't increasing in value I'm not sure that there's a benefit in buying.

Plus of course if you buy and the central heating goes kaput next week etc. etc. you'll have to sort it - if you rent it's the landlord's problem.

Axeman30

9,325 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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No point in my post as Piglet said it all first

>> Edited by Axeman30 on Thursday 5th January 13:28

Piglet

6,250 posts

285 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Axeman30 said:
No point in my post as Piglet said it all first

>> Edited by Axeman30 on Thursday 5th January 13:28


Sorry!!! Type quicker next time!

Axeman30

9,325 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Piglet said:
Axeman30 said:
No point in my post as Piglet said it all first

>> Edited by Axeman30 on Thursday 5th January 13:28


Sorry!!! Type quicker next time!


No worries what you said was all good stuff

minicity

1,009 posts

261 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Don't forget all the time and hassle of buying and selling. The worst case scenario is that the two transactions could take a whole year on their own.

pdV6

16,442 posts

291 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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minicity said:
Don't forget all the time and hassle of buying and selling.

In the scenario you describe, this would be my biggest worry - i.e. not being able to liquidate your cash in a hurry when the new pad finally becomes available (plus posibly handing over large amounts of cash to Gordie)

T5-R

434 posts

256 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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What about a bedsit (or a mate willing to let out a spare room to you) for 6 months with all your stuff in temp storage?

This is assuming you're single with no family in tow, of course.

chrisgr31

14,290 posts

285 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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T5-R said:
What about a bedsit (or a mate willing to let out a spare room to you) for 6 months with all your stuff in temp storage?

This is assuming you're single with no family in tow, of course.


or caravan!

miniandy

Original Poster:

1,512 posts

267 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Thanks for the advice.

At the moment, renting seems the best bet, however I would be nervous about loosing money or not having enough for the new place when it is built. My concern with renting is that I don't have anything to show for the outlay over the last year. I think that if I were to buy again, I would at least have a house to sell, but I suppose even this has it's problems if the market were to dive or I was unable to recoup my money quick enough. Oh I don't know!

dinod

1,953 posts

251 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Buy a big mobile home/caravan. A bit like buying a house but with none of the drawbacks of stamp duty etc etc..

Graham

16,381 posts

314 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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miniandy said:
My concern with renting is that I don't have anything to show for the outlay over the last year.


Other than not having to sleep in your car for a year!!!! it does make me laugh when people say renting is throwing money away.... you do actually get somthing for the money...


Cheers

Graham ( who lives in a mortgaged house )

Axeman30

9,325 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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miniandy said:
Thanks for the advice.

At the moment, renting seems the best bet, however I would be nervous about loosing money or not having enough for the new place when it is built. My concern with renting is that I don't have anything to show for the outlay over the last year. I think that if I were to buy again, I would at least have a house to sell, but I suppose even this has it's problems if the market were to dive or I was unable to recoup my money quick enough. Oh I don't know!


I presume that having sold house A. you will then have a large lump of cash in the bank for a year before you buy house B.

If you put that on deposit, say at 5% then your interest income will offset what you pay in rent. Effectively meaning that you can rent for free. Without the liquidity risk associated with buying another house/flat that you only want for one year which IMO would be crazy.

jazzybee

3,056 posts

279 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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pdV6 said:
minicity said:
Don't forget all the time and hassle of buying and selling.

In the scenario you describe, this would be my biggest worry - i.e. not being able to liquidate your cash in a hurry when the new pad finally becomes available (plus posibly handing over large amounts of cash to Gordie)


Another option would be to buy (and maybe sell) at Auction. Brown increased the threshold for Stamp Duty free property to £120k... Buy something under 120k at auction in your area... spend a little doing it up so that when your new place is ready, you can either sell quickly or rent out for additional income.

fido

18,918 posts

285 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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miniandy said:
Thanks for the advice.

At the moment, renting seems the best bet, however I would be nervous about loosing money or not having enough for the new place when it is built. My concern with renting is that I don't have anything to show for the outlay over the last year. I think that if I were to buy again, I would at least have a house to sell, but I suppose even this has it's problems if the market were to dive or I was unable to recoup my money quick enough. Oh I don't know!


you could take a punt on house prices via IG Index, though i think they only do Greater London(?) -which may not provide a good hedge in your neck of the woods!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Any caves nearby...?

miniandy

Original Poster:

1,512 posts

267 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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mybrainhurts said:
Any caves nearby...?


Unfortunately not!

However here is another question for you all - the missives have been signed on my new place, but say I changed my mind due to the completion date having moved back another 6 months, how likely is it that I will be able to get out? Secondly, could I sell it back to the developer?

Cheers