Zymol Royale wax treatment tomorrow!
Zymol Royale wax treatment tomorrow!
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woof

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8,456 posts

305 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Hiya

Took advantage of the offer PH did www.miracledetail.co.uk and the chap's coming tomorrow
I'm a big Zymol fan already - i spent many a happy hour rubbing wax on my 930

But here's what involved tomorrow:
2 hours - 13 stage Miracle wash and decontamination 2 hours
6-8 hours for digital paint depth readings, paintwork correction and the Royale
wax application.

This is using the Zymol Royale wax at £6k a pot !

I'll report the result


kayc

4,492 posts

249 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Sounds complicated..i have tried every polish avaialble and had the best results by a long way using Zaino products from the States.Cheap,easy to use and a show car finish.Check out the Zaino website.Anyone else using it?

richb

56,041 posts

312 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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woof said:
...here's what involved tomorrow:
2 hours - 13 stage Miracle wash and decontamination 2 hours
6-8 hours for digital paint depth readings, paintwork correction and the Royale
wax application.
that's 8-12 hours work and theres only 5-6 hours daylight at the moment, how will he fit it all in? Rich...

diver944

1,855 posts

304 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Maybe he uses both hands at once

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

331 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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He's a good lad. A bit obsessive but I guess that's what you need in his business

Did a cracking job on our Cerbie.

domster

8,431 posts

298 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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kayc said:
Sounds complicated..i have tried every polish avaialble and had the best results by a long way using Zaino products from the States.Cheap,easy to use and a show car finish.Check out the Zaino website.Anyone else using it?


Paul at Miracle uses Zaino as well. He's a fan, but the Zymol - although more difficult to apply apparently - gives better results from what he tells me. As an 'interested amateur' I'd go for Zaino, as an 'obsessive professional' I'd go for a Zymol mega-carnauba wax.

police state

4,352 posts

248 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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woof said:

Hiya

But here's what involved tomorrow:...
6-8 hours for digital paint depth readings, paintwork correction and the Royale
wax application.


What does he need the 'digital paint depth readings' for?

Jimmy Riviera

283 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Paul at miracle detail is the man. Does a brilliant job, works like a trojan and is totally obsessive about the finished result. You will be very pleased by the results.

paul does paintwork correction as well as polish / detailing work so he needs to know how deep the paint is before using rubbing compounds of various degrees so he can get the best finishand remove as little paint as possible. Also useful to see which panels have been repainted over time.

ben.

Yex

4,608 posts

248 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Excellent news that "the man" is doing your car today. I was concerned that it may be a bit cold for the full works Zymol treatment but will now be using my new Glasur pack on the car ASAP.

Regards

Yex

vpr

3,922 posts

266 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Would be interested in this....what kind of wonga does it cost.

domster

8,431 posts

298 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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vpr said:
Would be interested in this....what kind of wonga does it cost.


see www.miracledetail.co.uk

He's about 75GBP per hour from memory. I suppose a Zymol wax top up layer is an hour or two, a complete Concourse Detail with lots of paint correction is all day or over two days. I suppose you'd be looking at about 300GBP.

Is it value? If it keeps your car from depreciating or gets you an extra grand on your private sale price, then sure. He's saved some people from a 4-6k respray.

You'd only need a major detail yearly then a couple of top ups. Would you spend 1k a year keeping your car looking good? Some would. Especially if those hours you spend on a Sunday are worth more to you kept free. Why spend all day slaving over a Zymol pot when there's someone who actually enjoys waxing cars, LOL. And I bet he's better at waxing a car than me.

Is he taking the p1ss at 75GBP an hour when you can do the job with a bucket/sponge or give the kid next door a fiver? Well, he's probably the best car detailer in the country for the cost per hour of a distinctly average conveyancing solicitor. That doesn't seem so bad.

ATB
Domster

silver993tt

9,064 posts

267 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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richb said:
woof said:
...here's what involved tomorrow:
2 hours - 13 stage Miracle wash and decontamination 2 hours
6-8 hours for digital paint depth readings, paintwork correction and the Royale
wax application.
that's 8-12 hours work and theres only 5-6 hours daylight at the moment, how will he fit it all in? Rich...


Well, that works out at 600-900GBP @ for 8-12 hours @75GBP per hour

kayc

4,492 posts

249 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Sounds expensive to me...get a Zaino kit and do it yourself..90% as good for a £70 kit that lasts ages.Check the Zaino gallery on the website coz thats how good the paintwork will look with a bit of patience.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

277 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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I haven't used Paul but I know of someone local to me who is also a valeter and through him I discovered Zymol. He only uses Zymol products. After a bit of trial and error I've managed to work out how to use the starter kit to get the best results. OK, the finished article may not be anywhere near as good after an obsessive professional has spent the best part of a day on the car but I'm pretty pleased with the results especially considering from the initial £150 investment I've still got more than half the polish left after 6 years. I get through a bottle of Auto Bathe and wheel cleaner a year and HD clense every two - total cost £60. I admit the initial cost is expensive but I can't afford to use anything else

kayc

4,492 posts

249 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Just to stir things up a bit...i have heard that carnauba wax long term tarnishes the paintwork and only a synthetic polish wont!!

domster

8,431 posts

298 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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kayc said:
Just to stir things up a bit...i have heard that carnauba wax long term tarnishes the paintwork and only a synthetic polish wont!!


And I have heard that there's a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow and that OJ's innocent.

Interesting thought but you need to substantiate it or reveal your source, otherwise you're just scaremongering...

sleep envy

62,260 posts

277 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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kayc said:
Just to stir things up a bit...i have heard that carnauba wax long term tarnishes the paintwork and only a synthetic polish wont!!


nonegreen

7,803 posts

298 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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anonymous said:
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£75 an hour buys you an idiot from a main agent to call you mate and systematically bugger up your car so its seems reasonable for the best of anything. Even a rubbish life coach charges more than that.

tertius

6,914 posts

258 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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domster said:


And I have heard that there's a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow



Ssssssh, now everyone will be looking

Edited to fix the quoting again

>> Edited by tertius on Friday 6th January 14:14

domster

8,431 posts

298 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Oops.

How are those money trees growing, BTW?