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UI just came across a site which refused to display in Internet Explorer.
Instead I saw a lot of anti-Microsoft "text", and quotes like this:
This seems like pretty strange behaviour, and not something I have come across before. It's one thing to choose to ignore a particular browser when designing a site, or to optimise for a specific browser (pretty much the same thing), but to actively prevent users of a particular browser from accessing your site seems somewhat perverse.
His site, his choice I guess, but if everyone imposed their own choice in this way the internet would get to be a pretty fragmented place.
>> Edited by victormeldrew on Monday 9th January 20:48
Instead I saw a lot of anti-Microsoft "text", and quotes like this:
John M Simpson said:
Why am I reading this page, instead of the page I was really looking for?
Because you're using Internet Explorer, and I have configured my server to send all IE users to this page automatically. If you use a different browser, you will have access to the normal content on my site.
This seems like pretty strange behaviour, and not something I have come across before. It's one thing to choose to ignore a particular browser when designing a site, or to optimise for a specific browser (pretty much the same thing), but to actively prevent users of a particular browser from accessing your site seems somewhat perverse.
His site, his choice I guess, but if everyone imposed their own choice in this way the internet would get to be a pretty fragmented place.
>> Edited by victormeldrew on Monday 9th January 20:48
Is it really any worse that the reasonably large number of sites that require IE to work properly (or at all). Personally I think that sites should code to the published standards without hacks or use of proprietary code. Unfortunately this would actually result in most sites not rendering correctly in IE!
robbieduncan said:
Is it really any worse that the reasonably large number of sites that require IE to work properly (or at all). Personally I think that sites should code to the published standards without hacks or use of proprietary code. Unfortunately this would actually result in most sites not rendering correctly in IE!
Quite agree. I think the site in question is a tongue-in-cheek protest at other sites that throw up a message saying you have the "wrong" browser if they do not detect IE. Beleive me, I've seen it.
Well, the guy is a useless idiot. I tried it in Firefox and still got his "I don't like Microsoft, so I'm sulking" page, despite the fact that his page clearly shows that Firefox was identifying itself unambiguously as Firefox:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5
I love it when people declare themselves lord and master of the internet, and then run a site that looks like it was written by a five year old in front page.
Ask him and he'll say "I don't need my site to look good, it's functional and that's all that matters". Which is ironic coming from mr "i've been involved in the internet since 1816 because I'm so innovative and forward thinking". The internet is about progress, applying the same "it's functional which is all that matters" logic would have us all looking at black and white TVs and driving austin allegros.
Ask him and he'll say "I don't need my site to look good, it's functional and that's all that matters". Which is ironic coming from mr "i've been involved in the internet since 1816 because I'm so innovative and forward thinking". The internet is about progress, applying the same "it's functional which is all that matters" logic would have us all looking at black and white TVs and driving austin allegros.
JonRB said:
Is it really any worse that the reasonably large number of sites that require IE to work properly (or at all). Personally I think that sites should code to the published standards without hacks or use of proprietary code. Unfortunately this would actually result in most sites not rendering correctly in IE!
I think the site in question is a tongue-in-cheek protest at other sites that throw up a message saying you have the "wrong" browser if they do not detect IE. Beleive me, I've seen it.
Coding a site to not work on IE is deciding that 90% of browser users don't need to read your page. Maybe that's true...
Don said:
Is it really any worse that the reasonably large number of sites that require IE to work properly (or at all). Personally I think that sites should code to the published standards without hacks or use of proprietary code. Unfortunately this would actually result in most sites not rendering correctly in IE!
I think the site in question is a tongue-in-cheek protest at other sites that throw up a message saying you have the "wrong" browser if they do not detect IE. Beleive me, I've seen it.
Coding a site to not work on IE is deciding that 90% of browser users don't need to read your page. Maybe that's true...
And coding a site so it only works on IE is the "Eat shit; 90 million flies can't be wrong" argument.
I caved in and followed the link after all.
What a jumped up little tw@t. And the crowning turd on the cowpat is that he goes on about how farking brilliant Firefox is and yet, as has already been pointed out, his site was incapable of detecting that I was in fact using Firefox.
Loser
>> Edited by JonRB on Monday 9th January 15:59
What a jumped up little tw@t. And the crowning turd on the cowpat is that he goes on about how farking brilliant Firefox is and yet, as has already been pointed out, his site was incapable of detecting that I was in fact using Firefox.
Loser
>> Edited by JonRB on Monday 9th January 15:59
king t0sser" is particularly appropriate. 
not condoning him in any way, but his site does work for Firefox and Opera for me.
The orignal link at the top of the page is the page IE users get if they try and go here...
www.jms1.net/
(IE does suck though
)
The orignal link at the top of the page is the page IE users get if they try and go here...
www.jms1.net/
(IE does suck though
)Ah, I see. Well, that makes sense.
Only been using the internet since 1992? What a newbie! I've been using it since about 1988 and dial-up BBSs since about 1986, and consider myself a late starter!
(Having said that, for extra geek points I first started programming at the age of about 7, which is a bit sad really)
Only been using the internet since 1992? What a newbie! I've been using it since about 1988 and dial-up BBSs since about 1986, and consider myself a late starter!
(Having said that, for extra geek points I first started programming at the age of about 7, which is a bit sad really)
JonRB said:Does a HP programmable calculator at age 12 count as programming? I definately wasn't programming at 7 though, that is geeky!
Ah, I see. Well, that makes sense.
Only been using the internet since 1992? What a newbie! I've been using it since about 1988 and dial-up BBSs since about 1986, and consider myself a late starter!
(Having said that, for extra geek points I first started programming at the age of about 7, which is a bit sad really)
victormeldrew said:My dad was a visionary and early adopter of technology. Very few people had a computer in 1976/77 so I was just lucky to have access to one, and it was something I found myself interested in. Computers (and programming them) have been part of my life ever since.
I definately wasn't programming at 7 though, that is geeky!
JonRB said:
I definately wasn't programming at 7 though, that is geeky!
1977? Blimey, I was working as a programmer (on the ITT ESR-1 telephone switch. Intel 8080s programmed in ESPL/1) by then. Wrote my first program (in FORTRAN for the ICL1901) in, er, 1971-ish. You kids, eh?
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