Exhaust with no baffles - how loud
Exhaust with no baffles - how loud
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cdt

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537 posts

311 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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I'm having the rear section (from the centre section backwards) of my exhaust replaced soon and am tempted not to have the baffles put in the silencer - can anyone give me some idea how loud it is likely to be with the backbox just acting as an expansion box?

Note my exhaust has no centre box, just a pipe joining the y-piece, and only a rear 'european style' silencer.

devoniain

127 posts

261 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Very )))))

badredwedge

3,450 posts

257 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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wont that have an effect on back pressure pulses and all that stuff ??

cdt

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537 posts

311 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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badredwedge said:
wont that have an effect on back pressure pulses and all that stuff ??


Do the baffles increase the back pressure that much?

badredwedge

3,450 posts

257 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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cdt said:
badredwedge said:
wont that have an effect on back pressure pulses and all that stuff ??


Do the baffles increase the back pressure that much?


Sorry chris I dont really know with a great big Wedge V8, I am only just starting to understand em, (ask me about overbored A series and I can tell you)

someone who does know will be along in abit

top secret

14 posts

250 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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Hi CDT, can offer a little help with regards to your exhaust queery, my Wedge (350) is currently using an exhaust that is basically a straight through system ie: it has no centre box and two very small 'smoke' box's at the rear.....as a result of this there is very little back preasure and a slight loss of torque at lower revs, on the up side, it generates more power in the mid to top rev range, and creates a hell of noise.
With regards to the increased noise level, the neighbours have awarded the car an ASBO! and it certainly deserves it!
P.S if you have this done to yours,please choose from the following option list when driving for more than an hour:
1) Buy a pair of ear-plugs (not so cool)
2) Carry a pack of extra strength Paracetemol (more discrete)

Happy motoring!

cdt

Original Poster:

537 posts

311 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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I presume the silencer box will quieten it a little, even without the baffles? It is a normal size rear box.

I had a big hole in the exhaust a few weeks ago, hence why it needs a replacement. The exhaust had a gap so the rear part wasn't connected to the front. This didn't seem excessively loud, although some of the exhaust gasses were still going through the rear silencer.

Is it going to be any louder than a Griff (with a cat) with a sleeved exhaust?

top secret said:
Hi CDT, can offer a little help with regards to your exhaust queery, my Wedge (350) is currently using an exhaust that is basically a straight through system ie: it has no centre box and two very small 'smoke' box's at the rear.....as a result of this there is very little back preasure and a slight loss of torque at lower revs, on the up side, it generates more power in the mid to top rev range, and creates a hell of noise.
With regards to the increased noise level, the neighbours have awarded the car an ASBO! and it certainly deserves it!
P.S if you have this done to yours,please choose from the following option list when driving for more than an hour:
1) Buy a pair of ear-plugs (not so cool)
2) Carry a pack of extra strength Paracetemol (more discrete)

Happy motoring!

petros

2,441 posts

258 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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If you go to sleepy-fish.com, click on sounds there is a short soundtrack of an austech racing straight through system

pistolar

1,474 posts

297 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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leave the baffles in

cdt

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537 posts

311 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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pistolar said:
leave the baffles in


This is coming from the person who had the loudest wedge? Why?

pistolar

1,474 posts

297 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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cdt said:
pistolar said:
leave the baffles in


This is coming from the person who had the loudest wedge? Why?


Draws too much attention (boy racers + establishment) also not very nice for neighbours

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Wednesday 11th January 2006
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The 520 ran for a weekend or so with a straight through box due to it blowing the baffles out of the exhaust. It was measured at 119db at 4000 rpm. Fitted a standard exhaust pretty quickly. It was too loud. Also the engine gained more power with the new system. These engines do like a bit of back pressure.

v8 racing

2,064 posts

280 months

Wednesday 11th January 2006
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Far too noisy without baffles on top of that you can never hear if the engine pinks, if you want a really nice deep sound like an 8 should sound like put 1 or 2 glass packed silencers in the system

cdt

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537 posts

311 months

Wednesday 11th January 2006
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v8 racing said:
put 1 or 2 glass packed silencers in the system


Can you tell me more?

top secret

14 posts

250 months

Wednesday 11th January 2006
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Just to add a few more comments, I would definately prefer the car to be a touch quieter, so would recommend you follow the advice from the other threads and install some form of silencer in the system.
As I previously mentioned, mine is a straight through system but forgot to admit that it also has no balancer pipe so is actually two seperate systems and I may have to change the back box's for a pair of silenced ones in the near future as the constant exhaust drone at 50 - 60 mph becomes annoying after a while and on one occasion even attracted the attention of the Boy's in Blue.
(still sounds awesome when driving through town though!)

leorest

2,346 posts

268 months

Wednesday 11th January 2006
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top secret said:
...it also has no balancer pipe...
So what does the balance pipe do then?

cdt

Original Poster:

537 posts

311 months

Wednesday 11th January 2006
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Will the silencer box with no baffles reduce the noise at all, or will it effectively be straight through?

cdt

Original Poster:

537 posts

311 months

Wednesday 11th January 2006
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Thanks for everyones help so far. Apologies for all the questions but it will be an expensive mistake if I get it wrong.

I've been listening to lots of TVRs on various videos and I've realised what I want is a deeper sound at idle and low revs and that not having baffles probably won't give me this. Has any one got any ideas how I can achieve this? I'll probably give someone like JP exhausts a call and see what they can suggest.

Is this partly down to the shape of the tail pipe(s)?

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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leorest said:
top secret said:
...it also has no balancer pipe...
So what does the balance pipe do then?

Gives you more torque....

FrenchTVR

1,844 posts

296 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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I've got an RT Racing stainless system on mine. The centre box is straight through, with I think packing in the box. I have passed a steel rod straight through it. It's fairly quiet at only 99dB but has a lovely deep note to it and produces loads of torque.

Try speaking to Richard Thorpe for his opinion.