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silkygal

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56 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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I'm sure that most of us will agree that there are NOT enough road signs, speed cameras, red light cameras, traffic calming measures, rules, rules, etc. on our roads.


I'm also sure that most will agree that foxes and hunting are far more important than transport, education and health issues.


Let's face it, not enough parliamentary time and effort has been spent on hunting over the last few years and it's about time that the Government took note that we consider this issue to be of paramount importance.


I may have found a partial solution ........ 'fox crossings'. These will work in exactly the same manner as 'zebra crossings'. The beauty of this is that traffic must slow or stop when a fox wants to cross the road and the hunters will NOT be allowed to use the crossing, thus giving the fox a chance to get away. Cameras can monitor the crossings so that hunters can be charged (ha) if they use the crossings ...... horses will need to have registration plates fitted.

The above solution has numerous advantages - it's a compromise for the two sides - more work for council workers putting down the fox crossings instead of putting more bloody mini-roundabouts everywhere - more cameras to slow us all down - more revenue for the police - more traffic work for the police so that they don't have to spend their time investigating and stopping serious crime ....... everyone wins !!!

danger mouse

3,829 posts

288 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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This is something that I have wondered about for while now...

firstly, does the highways agencey credit birds with a higher degree of inteligence that medium sized mammals? After all, a Zebra needs only to walk up to the crossing to operate it fully. Puffins and Pelicans are required to push a button.

It might be that these monchromatic sea birds are very easily bored, and would otherwise eschue the crossings altogether in favour of the much more dangerous passtime taken up by their smaller, fleeter cousins, Jay-walking.

The other thing that has occured to me is that, we, the Great Brithish tax payer are investing in road crossings for nonindiginous animals. This does seem grossley unfair, especially on the constantly victimised Hedgehog and Bagder populations. Or is that the authorities are trying to improve facitlies for illeagle animal imigrants in the hopes that they might settle and make our land's fauna a bit more interesting?

I don't understand any of it! ...


Mouse

...how am I supposed to cross the road?

>> Edited by danger mouse because I should have gone to bed yonks ago, and now I'm losing the power of sight...

>> Edited by danger mouse on Wednesday 4th December 02:30

silkygal

Original Poster:

56 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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"Mouse
...how am I supposed to cross the road?"

Not sure, can't you use the 'rat runs' ?

danger mouse

3,829 posts

288 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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What the hell are still doing up at this time Silkygal?

northernboy

12,642 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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The ban on hunting was a manifesto promise I believe.

david010167

1,397 posts

290 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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Was that the same manifesto, that promised to improve the Transport, Health & Educaton Systems, or did I read that in the Punch

David



northernboy said: The ban on hunting was a manifesto promise I believe.




>> Edited by david010167 on Wednesday 4th December 08:15

deltaf

1,384 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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Manifesto........ hmmmmm......Look under "fiction".

danger mouse

3,829 posts

288 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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northernboy said: The ban on hunting was a manifesto promise I believe.


...at least they can say they did deliver on something!

Venom

1,864 posts

286 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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[churchillmode]
I have to admit that I can't remember the last time I saw a badger crossing. Surely such a rare and endangered species should be the top of our priorities and not the foxes everyone seems to hold so dear.

Badgers are an irreplaceable part of life in this country and there simply is now similar alternative to them. Yes we could spray paint a few cats and staple longer tails to them, but you really wouldn't get quite the same aesthethic effect. At least if foxes were to disappear we could realise a few cross bred dogs into the wild and nobody would be any the wiser.

I really think our current Government is missing the point here. Personally I'd be quite happy to save a few quid on Gatso's and use the money to save the wild Badger population in this country. Who's with me?
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>> Edited by Venom on Wednesday 4th December 13:42

danger mouse

3,829 posts

288 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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How can we go wrong, what with you already part of the Tony's henchmen Society?

:duck:

madcop

6,649 posts

290 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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Venom said: [churchillmode]
Badgers are an irreplaceable part of life in this country and there simply is now similar alternative to them.

I really think our current Government is missing the point here. Personally I'd be quite happy to save a few quid on Gatso's and use the money to save the wild Badger population in this country. Who's with me?
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Ask any cattle farmer about badgers being endangered. hey are not. They are hugely over protected. There is a large section of law specifically aimed at protection of badgers.

I have a friend who farms on the edge of Exmoor.
Last week he had a ministry test on his herd of 140 beef cattle.
68 of these prize beasts were taken and destroyed by the ministry as they tested positive for Bovine T.B.
The badger is the carrier of this disease.
I was at his farm and a neighbouring one last week. That farmer has been shut down for 3 years regarding the production of his beef herd because of this T.B. problem.
There are hundreds of badgers all over the two farms and nothing is or can be done to protect their herds at the moment.
Nobody wants to see the end of creatures like badgers and foxes.
Badgers are not as scarce as everyone would think!


danger mouse

3,829 posts

288 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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...I don't think he realised you were joking Venom old chap. :rollleyes:

AlexR

190 posts

293 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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Truth stranger than fiction moment coming up...I'm glad Madcop's been reading this. What does he make of the following, which is taken from Part 3 Para 41 of the Hunting Bill published yesterday:


"Search & Seizure
41(1) ...where a constable reasonably suspects that a person is committing or has committed an offence
[ie, has been hunting without a licence]
(2) If the constable reasonably believes that evidence of the offence is likely to be found on the suspect, the constable may stop the suspect and search him"



So far, so unremarkable. But....


"(3) If the constable reasonably believes that evidence of the offence is likely to be found on or in a vehicle, animal or other thing...the constable may stop and search the vehicle, animal or other thing"



So, Madcop and his mates could find themselves stopping and searching 40 foxhounds, looking for "evidence...on or in an animal".

I kid you not.

"Now then Rover, open wide..."

There's only one other way I can think of of checking for "evidence in an animal" but that's even less appealing a prospect.

Top quality legislation brought to you by HM Govt...


>> Edited by AlexR on Wednesday 4th December 21:14

deltaf

1,384 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th December 2002
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Does that mean they could search the animals owner in that way too?
Spread em...aaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggg

bikerkeith

794 posts

291 months

Thursday 5th December 2002
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Re; venom's point about badger crossings.
I've seen lots of ex-badgers splatted at the side of the road, but only one live one. I was riding home fairly late one evening when I had to deploy a swift bit of counter-steering to avoid this black and white beast slowly tottering across the road. Judging by the time (after chucking out time) and the way it was meandering slowly across this fast stretch of road, I suspect he was on his way home from the pub after a few too many. Glad I managed to miss him, don't think a high speed encounter would have done either of us any good.