New Exige variant with NA 220bhp Toyota?
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I was at my dealership today to have my front wheels rebalanced as I've just had my steering rack replaced under warranty.
Whilst this was being done, I was chatting to one of the sales chaps about possibly replacing my 54-plate 111r later this year, and he mentioned a new Exige variant that is coming along - powered by a 220bhp normally-aspirated version of the 2zz-ge engine. I haven't heard or read anything about such a model being announced or rumoured. Sounds interesting though, and apparently has performance figures not entirely dissimilar to the limited edition blown versions that came out recently.
Does anyone know any more about this apparent new model?
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Whilst this was being done, I was chatting to one of the sales chaps about possibly replacing my 54-plate 111r later this year, and he mentioned a new Exige variant that is coming along - powered by a 220bhp normally-aspirated version of the 2zz-ge engine. I haven't heard or read anything about such a model being announced or rumoured. Sounds interesting though, and apparently has performance figures not entirely dissimilar to the limited edition blown versions that came out recently.
Does anyone know any more about this apparent new model?
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What I heard talking to Lotus Sport whilst trying to get a supercharger kit out of them for my S2, was that it was going to be a lower spec 220hp supercharger kit with smaller side mounted intercooler for both exige and sport elise hence they wouldn't sell the kits now. The bad news was that it sounded like this power was needed to counter the rise in weight as the federal mods to the bumpers etc were made to ALL market cars... also he said there was going to be a 140hp elise based on the cheaper Toyota engine to create an entry model as well.
But knowing Lotus who knows....
But knowing Lotus who knows....
beachbum said:
More power....yippppeee 
More Weight...Damn
Be interesting to know what the final pwr/kg ratio will be compared to the current Toyota models.
I am not adding bumpers to my car so, it is just the weight of the mods. If it is the corolla SC then it is a direct replacement of some of the inlet manifold so negligable weight.
It is so easy to get more power from a SC, like a turbo, I think you will be able to get 250 - 260 bhp without sweating. 300bhp / tonne. Good start, not quite a bogie but shows promise.
Is true - I mentioned bits on a thread the other day. 220bhp Exige is supercharged and likely to cost £35k..... new entry model is £23,995 been rumours of 140bhp but also 160bhp. At that price I'd say more likely 140bhp as the 111S with 160bhp was £25,995.
Hence why all dealers have been reducing prices to clear stocks. Lotus were looking to nudge up the price of 111R and Exige but will add goodies to compensate. Not heard any more on this though....
Hence why all dealers have been reducing prices to clear stocks. Lotus were looking to nudge up the price of 111R and Exige but will add goodies to compensate. Not heard any more on this though....
Lawrence5 said:
Is true - I mentioned bits on a thread the other day. 220bhp Exige is supercharged and likely to cost £35k..... new entry model is £23,995 been rumours of 140bhp but also 160bhp. At that price I'd say more likely 140bhp as the 111S with 160bhp was £25,995.
Hence why all dealers have been reducing prices to clear stocks. Lotus were looking to nudge up the price of 111R and Exige but will add goodies to compensate. Not heard any more on this though....
Well I'm going to wait until this comes out and may be upgrade to and Exige after all, Mrs Boggy should soon have her run around
Boggy
Boggy said:
Well I'm going to wait until this comes out and may be upgrade to and Exige after all, Mrs Boggy should soon have her run around
Boggy
I might do the same at some point - would really like to lower the cam switchover... Not complaining though, went for a blast today and had a great time - didn't even use 2nd cam that much!
shangani said:
Lowering the cam switchover on the toyota engine without mods or forced induction will actually lower the performance - there would be a massive falloff in torque and power after switchover.
I've heard some where a while ago of some chiptuning for the 111R that also sets the cam swichover a lot earlier(in the 4/5.000rpm range?) so the torgue begins earlier and stil had more power ad the end...? but it could be that they where also using hotter cams...
GTRene
here is a link from elise talk where they talk about 111R with some tuning parts, Stage 2, Reverie Induction Kit, Komo-Tec exh. manifold & Sport Cat, look at the dyno, a big torgue gain over the standard at beginning around 2.700rpm! and only extra 6bhp, but its the torgue what is importend as Shang says..?
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>> Edited by GTRene on Saturday 14th January 18:58
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>> Edited by GTRene on Saturday 14th January 18:58
From Strattons;
"There is rumour that there may be a fully type approved version of the Exige at 220BHP. I would think it may be announced at Geneva Motor Show in March, if anywhere. At present, the 240BHP conversion can only be undertaken on a registered, "used" car.
If the components and plumbing are the same on a 220BHP version, there is a likelihood that it will not fit under the engine cover of an Elise - the coupe shape of the Exige gives more space above the engine for the intercooler. My thoughts, therefore, are that there will not be an upgrade kit for 111R."
Pretty much what I already thought having read previous PH posts...
"There is rumour that there may be a fully type approved version of the Exige at 220BHP. I would think it may be announced at Geneva Motor Show in March, if anywhere. At present, the 240BHP conversion can only be undertaken on a registered, "used" car.
If the components and plumbing are the same on a 220BHP version, there is a likelihood that it will not fit under the engine cover of an Elise - the coupe shape of the Exige gives more space above the engine for the intercooler. My thoughts, therefore, are that there will not be an upgrade kit for 111R."
Pretty much what I already thought having read previous PH posts...
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