Ultimate brakes !!
Ultimate brakes !!
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G Man

Original Poster:

4,053 posts

289 months

Friday 13th January 2006
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Fancy an upgrade to your 13" AP racing or Brembo discs !!
Well I when to Brembo at the Autosport show and said "Will you sell me the Carbon Ceramic discs for Ferrari/Porsche ?"
Answer "No !!"

Cruised around and found a little British company doing "Carbon Ceramic discs for road and track cars"

Apparently you can keep your calipers if you have good one and just change the disc !!
They were incredibly light compared to the steel/iron ones, so I might just cut a cheque !!

G Man

donkeasy

636 posts

251 months

Friday 13th January 2006
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I think you will need a couple of cheques

The carbon discs on a porsche wear out after 15000 km.
And in the Porscheworkshop: Yes sir we say they last 45000 km,
but you are the only one in the whole world, so no garanty.
What they cost you don't want to know.
I think you can put 378 AP with big callipers
on your car for that money.
And I think they will overbreke

Try better/more gripping blocks.

peterpsg

813 posts

263 months

Friday 13th January 2006
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Found the site, looks good... be keen to see some fitted!

G Man

Original Poster:

4,053 posts

289 months

Friday 13th January 2006
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donkeasy said:
I think you will need a couple of cheques

The carbon discs on a porsche wear out after 15000 km.
And in the Porscheworkshop: Yes sir we say they last 45000 km,
but you are the only one in the whole world, so no garanty.
What they cost you don't want to know.
I think you can put 378 AP with big callipers
on your car for that money.
And I think they will overbreke

Try better/more gripping blocks.


We are talking way less than Porsche £12K costs here

www.systemst.com

donkeasy

636 posts

251 months

Friday 13th January 2006
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Supprise me!

how much for 330?

k wright

1,039 posts

288 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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Group buy? Yes, please surprise us all.

ken

donkeasy

636 posts

251 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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Haha Ken,

No, factories.

Morning Joop

>> Edited by donkeasy on Saturday 14th January 08:42

G Man

Original Poster:

4,053 posts

289 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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k wright said:
Group buy? Yes, please surprise us all.

ken

I am sure they would !!
I reakon the price would be in the region of £3-4 K

donkeasy

636 posts

251 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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what blocks do they recommend?

d3vine

699 posts

297 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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What about these carbon ceramic brakes by ATS?

www.a-t-s-usa.com/ats-products/ats-products-carbon-brakes.shtml

G Man

Original Poster:

4,053 posts

289 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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donkeasy said:
what blocks do they recommend?


"Blocks" - don't quite understand , do you mean Calipers or Brake Pads maybe

donkeasy

636 posts

251 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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eehh brake pads,
blok is dutch sorry

stig

11,823 posts

313 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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Not convinved by Carbon Ceramics by a long chalk. On the track where they're working hard they're great, but for day to day use on the road where they don't get up to temp, I think they're more compromised.

Very Gucci though

peterpsg

813 posts

263 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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I think that composite brakes will become the standard in the nearish future, as the technology matures and the costs come down, a lot of research is going into these, i.e. for high speed trains where you can save several tons of weight! (Plus a lot of inertia!)

But the reduced rotating mass is the real benefit, as like with carbon clutches, it'll be quicker to spool up to speed (and slow down - ever tried to turn/stop a gyro with your hand!)

Still, at least for now there is still the 'Gucci' factor as Stig points out! - Quick before all the Chav's have them!

Wonder if it'll shave another 0.1 second of GMan's times...

G Man

Original Poster:

4,053 posts

289 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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stig said:
Not convinved by Carbon Ceramics by a long chalk. On the track where they're working hard they're great, but for day to day use on the road where they don't get up to temp, I think they're more compromised.

Very Gucci though


I have driven a F430 with CC brakes and they were excellent even when cold. I think there are different types of CC compound, we are a long way from from F1 glowing disks I think