Sticking Throttle - HELP!!!!
Sticking Throttle - HELP!!!!
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markizok

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644 posts

279 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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Hi

It was my second burst in my elsie and i nearly totalled it (an it wasnt my fault!)
Was on an a road, gave it some beans, went to break and the throttle just stuck - gave it a quick blip and it was sorted, but was very close to being a hedge incident!

Just called a few garrages and no one can fir me in today - any thoughts on how i can sort it out / tempory fix (im off home to night and really need to use it!)

Ta
MR

Sam_68

9,939 posts

276 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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If it's the actual throttle butterfly that's sticking (rather than the cable), then I'd suggest that the only sensible (reliable) solution is to replace the whole throttle body. If you can figure out how to make a screwdriver work, you may as well do this yourself - it's not at all complicated and will take you about ten minutes.

shangani

3,069 posts

268 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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Sounds like you need to crawl into the footwell and see if anything is catching (ignition off obviously)It is likely to be a lnkage problem though. Check that the throttle cable sleeve hasn't displaced. Make sure the pedal travels through the entire range without resistance or sticking.

You have an S2 - so no old fashioned plastic throttle bodies etc. Also make sure no bits of luggage etc have got stuck.

If it sticks consistently and you can't find a solution, bets not to drive it in these conditions. It is a mechanical setup, so the solution is likely to be easy.

GTRene

22,734 posts

255 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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markizok said:
Hi

It was my second burst in my elsie and i nearly totalled it (an it wasnt my fault!)
Was on an a road, gave it some beans, went to break and the throttle just stuck - gave it a quick blip and it was sorted, but was very close to being a hedge incident!

Just called a few garrages and no one can fir me in today - any thoughts on how i can sort it out / tempory fix (im off home to night and really need to use it!)

Ta
MR

Don't use full throttle before you've got an other throttle house! when you've still got the plastic housing its probebly that what caused it.(otherwise the cable or the pedal sticks under the carpets)
Look if you can see its still the origenal throttle house...if it is buy a alu one, not that expensive and a bit bigger too! so better gasresponce
GTRene

markizok

Original Poster:

644 posts

279 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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Cheers guys.
Theres nothing in the footwell - ill take it home to night slowly - keeping the clutch depressed for longer to make sure it not sticking on the change.

Ta again

GTRene

22,734 posts

255 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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when there's nothing in the footwell, and you have a normal(non plastic) throttle house that works ok...sometimes (I had that in my younger days) the cable is a bit broken on the ends, and when full throttle that broken part from the cable, come's deep in the cable housing and can't come back smootly, so check also the iron cable for small breakes in the steel-wiring!
Be careful and keep your foot near the clutch

shangani

3,069 posts

268 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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Markizok - your obviously recent model (short roof) S2 will have the newer aluminium throttle body. It is likely to be the cable. Check both ends of the cable - in the footwell and at the throttle body. If the lingage at the throttle body works well, then your problem is likely to be sticking in the cable.

markizok

Original Poster:

644 posts

279 months

Saturday 14th January 2006
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Hi.

Do you think there is any need to take it back to a lotus dealer to get it sorted or will a normal garage do - used to take my golf to a VW/Audi specialist, would that be okay?

markizok

Original Poster:

644 posts

279 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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Chaps

Just had another look and it seems that there is a spring handing from the peddle - should this be connected to something - it looks like if that was attached it would bounce back better???

rixge

292 posts

256 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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I WILL GO AND HAVE A LOOK..

Sam_68

9,939 posts

276 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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Yep, that's your throttle pedal return spring.

There is quite a lot of friction in a long throttle cable on a mid-engined installation like the Elise, so it is highly likely that you've just found the source of your problem - the friction in the cable will have been enough to hold the throttle open without the pedal return spring to pull it back.

Edited to add...if you have any difficulty finding where it reconnects, e-mail me via my profile and I'll mail you back a digital photo.

>> Edited by Sam_68 on Sunday 15th January 15:44

shangani

3,069 posts

268 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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Here is a pic of how it should look - hope it helps.



You will see the spring on the right. Looks like the fault has revealed itself then. This spring returns the accelerator to "off" position.

>> Edited by shangani on Sunday 15th January 15:51

GTRene

22,734 posts

255 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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yep, looks good shang! I was looking too but to slow again found this

it shows 2 points 1 for the cabel and 1 for the spring...
GTRene

Sam_68

9,939 posts

276 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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That looks ok to me - looks like the spring is still connected? Obvious question, but if you move the throttle pedal with your hand, is the spring stretching?

shangani

3,069 posts

268 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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Sam_68 said:
That looks ok to me - looks like the spring is still connected? Obvious question, but if you move the throttle pedal with your hand, is the spring stretching?


That is a picture of a car as it should be. Markizok says the spring is hanging down from the pedal, so it must have come loose. No pic from him yet though. Hopefully he will confirm that he has fixed it.

markizok

Original Poster:

644 posts

279 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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Hi there

thanks for that - i dont think i can do it myself, cant seem to find the bit to attach it to.

I take a print out of your comments to the garage and see if that helps.

Cheers again for your help!

shangani

3,069 posts

268 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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Look carefully at the pic, top right. The spring loops though a small hole at the top of the linkage. You will be able to feel it by hand. (the black bit) - have a go and save the money some fekker at a garage will charge you. It should be really simple.

GTRene

22,734 posts

255 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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I think so too that it could be a easy fix...but in the worst case there is something broken! a litle thing but broken still, a spring does not come of that easy I think, so proberbly something where the spring was atached to is broken...
GTRene

markizok

Original Poster:

644 posts

279 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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shangani said:
Look carefully at the pic, top right. The spring loops though a small hole at the top of the linkage. You will be able to feel it by hand. (the black bit) - have a go and save the money some fekker at a garage will charge you. It should be really simple.


Thanks, but my car doesnt look like that - the spring should come forward, that seems to go to the side???

shangani

3,069 posts

268 months

Sunday 15th January 2006
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It is the angle of the picture - the spring mount that has come loose is back (towards the back of the car from the top of the pedal. The flat "roof" above the pedals is the underside of the dashboard and is horixontal. Where you see the steering linkage disappearing through the bulkhead - this is the front wall of the footbox (bulkhead). The picture was taken by lying in ones back in the footwell looking up. The part you are looking for to attach the spring to lies well back (towards the front of the seat ie back of the car) from the top of the throttle pedal. Lie on your back and have a look.

I can talk you through it if you like - I will email my mobile number