Anyone ever been on the wrong side of the CSA.
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Whilst I agree that is a huge amount of reported cases the CSA are a bunch of incompetant morons, I dearly hope they get my sisters case right. She and her ex-partner have had 3 kids together (which he wanted) but after she got post-natal depression (which he told her she was making up 
) he threw her and the kids out of the house when she was 7 months pregnant with the 3rd kid (no denying it is his) and moved a girlfriend in. He also bullied her into signing over to him her share of the business they ran together. There is also other stuff which I won't go into. Awful, awful person.
I feel very helpless because if I do anything like set the VAT/Tax people on to him (I am pretty sure he is dodgy) he will take it out on her
The Social security people seem to be useless too which is particularly grating as she has worked and paid tax since she left school until she had the first kid 5 yrs ago. Sponging doleys seem to get priority over someone who genuinely needs help 
All she wants to do is get back on her feet, get the kids to school and get back to supporting herself and the kids by herself. Surely this is what the CSA/social was set up for?
Ace-T
) he threw her and the kids out of the house when she was 7 months pregnant with the 3rd kid (no denying it is his) and moved a girlfriend in. He also bullied her into signing over to him her share of the business they ran together. There is also other stuff which I won't go into. Awful, awful person. I feel very helpless because if I do anything like set the VAT/Tax people on to him (I am pretty sure he is dodgy) he will take it out on her
The Social security people seem to be useless too which is particularly grating as she has worked and paid tax since she left school until she had the first kid 5 yrs ago. Sponging doleys seem to get priority over someone who genuinely needs help All she wants to do is get back on her feet, get the kids to school and get back to supporting herself and the kids by herself. Surely this is what the CSA/social was set up for? Ace-T
Without divulging to much into his private life they are after him for two children.
First child;
He was living together with someone and they had a child,after a year she went off with another bloke,the bloke she left him for had a nice big house etc and was set for a ready made family.
My freind tried to get access to his child but it was at first made hard (he didnt even know their address)and when he did make arrangements his ex wouldnt keep to times and would muck him about,it used to kill him.
In the end his ex and her new partner made a deal,"we are willing to for-go any payments for the child if you disappear into the back ground and leave us to get on with our lives".
This was a hard choice for my mate as he was getting mucked about anyway,he had the choice
a/Take their deal and let his child hopefuly enjoy a close family relationship with no complications and at the same time cut ties which in time would make things more emotionalt stable for him and every one else concerned ,primarily his child or
b/Persist with it and hope sense prevails and access is offered and guidelines are adhered too,(if the pas few months were to go by,NO chance).
In the end he decided to let go and the case went to court,This is where it gets complicated.
At that time the court in his town(Basingstoke) was closed for a refit,so it went to another towns court(Andover),the judge heard the case and his child was awarded the responsiblity of the new father,they even changed the childs name to the new fathers.
My mate walked away from court with all responsiblity removed from him ,both parental and financial.
The mother married her new man and they had a further child,twelve years later they got divorced and the bloke resisted demands to pay any maintenance for the child that was awarded his responsibility ,so the mother and CSA came looking for the biological father,who told them to get lost and informed them of the agreement,the CSA wanted proof of the agreement but since that court day the court in the other town(Andover) has closed and he can not find any proof of paperwork from that day.
Now the CSA are looking for back payments of the biological father.
>> Edited by ZR1cliff on Saturday 14th January 11:44
First child;
He was living together with someone and they had a child,after a year she went off with another bloke,the bloke she left him for had a nice big house etc and was set for a ready made family.
My freind tried to get access to his child but it was at first made hard (he didnt even know their address)and when he did make arrangements his ex wouldnt keep to times and would muck him about,it used to kill him.
In the end his ex and her new partner made a deal,"we are willing to for-go any payments for the child if you disappear into the back ground and leave us to get on with our lives".
This was a hard choice for my mate as he was getting mucked about anyway,he had the choice
a/Take their deal and let his child hopefuly enjoy a close family relationship with no complications and at the same time cut ties which in time would make things more emotionalt stable for him and every one else concerned ,primarily his child or
b/Persist with it and hope sense prevails and access is offered and guidelines are adhered too,(if the pas few months were to go by,NO chance).
In the end he decided to let go and the case went to court,This is where it gets complicated.
At that time the court in his town(Basingstoke) was closed for a refit,so it went to another towns court(Andover),the judge heard the case and his child was awarded the responsiblity of the new father,they even changed the childs name to the new fathers.
My mate walked away from court with all responsiblity removed from him ,both parental and financial.
The mother married her new man and they had a further child,twelve years later they got divorced and the bloke resisted demands to pay any maintenance for the child that was awarded his responsibility ,so the mother and CSA came looking for the biological father,who told them to get lost and informed them of the agreement,the CSA wanted proof of the agreement but since that court day the court in the other town(Andover) has closed and he can not find any proof of paperwork from that day.
Now the CSA are looking for back payments of the biological father.
>> Edited by ZR1cliff on Saturday 14th January 11:44
busa_rush said:
Depends on the situation, if he left the woman and they are his kids then maybe he ought to pay up . . . if she left him or they are not his kids then do whatever he can to escape.
Even if she left him, he should still pay up. Since they're his children, he is responsible for his share of their upkeep regardless of how and why the relationship came to an end.
cossie. said:
Depends on the situation, if he left the woman and they are his kids then maybe he ought to pay up . . . if she left him or they are not his kids then do whatever he can to escape.
Even if she left him, he should still pay up. Since they're his children, he is responsible for his share of their upkeep regardless of how and why the relationship came to an end.
I would agree with the proviso that the Mother permits proper access, and there are no special circumstances such as the one ZRCliff details above.
Jaglover said:
Now the CSA are looking for back payments of the biological father.
Absolutely disgraceful
Trouble is the CSA have just put a demand through his door for close on 40 grand,my mates been running for the last few years but now he has found a lovely house,is settled in himself ,and doesnt want to run anymore.
Problem is,where are the records from the court case
Yes the name change will be documented, but maybe not the reason why. But the solicitor may have a copy of the court hearing. It will depend on how long they keep documents after the fact before destroying them.
Get him to ring his local court, and ask where the documents from the court that dealt with his case where taken to for storage.
Get him to ring his local court, and ask where the documents from the court that dealt with his case where taken to for storage.
Parrot of Doom said:
he can not find any proof of paperwork from that day.
Solicitor, MP, newspapers - also, there will almost certainly be a record of any adoption and name changes somewhere, won't there?
Sorry i should of said this first reared its head in 2001-2,he inquired ,looked but couldnt find any record of the case,after a while of looking with no results he has since moved about.
He has no record of the case number either although it would of been heard at the court around 1990-91.
It wasnt adoption as so much as a person being awarded joint parental responsibility.
grass widow said:
Yes the name change will be documented, but maybe not the reason why. But the solicitor may have a copy of the court hearing. It will depend on how long they keep documents after the fact before destroying them.
Get him to ring his local court, and ask where the documents from the court that dealt with his case where taken to for storage.
I am told that the court in Andover closed in the 90's some when but dont know where the documents would of been sent or how to find them,all ive got to go on is "Name Versus Name".
ZR1cliff said:
Yes the name change will be documented, but maybe not the reason why. But the solicitor may have a copy of the court hearing. It will depend on how long they keep documents after the fact before destroying them.
Get him to ring his local court, and ask where the documents from the court that dealt with his case where taken to for storage.
I am told that the court in Andover closed in the 90's some when but dont know where the documents would of been sent or how to find them,all ive got to go on is "Name Versus Name".
Get him to ring the solicitor that dealt with it and explain what is happening now with the CSA. They may have some ideas of how to find paperwork for him.
grass widow said:
Yes the name change will be documented, but maybe not the reason why. But the solicitor may have a copy of the court hearing. It will depend on how long they keep documents after the fact before destroying them.
Get him to ring his local court, and ask where the documents from the court that dealt with his case where taken to for storage.
I am told that the court in Andover closed in the 90's some when but dont know where the documents would of been sent or how to find them,all ive got to go on is "Name Versus Name".
Get him to ring the solicitor that dealt with it and explain what is happening now with the CSA. They may have some ideas of how to find paperwork for him.
Problem was he never used a solicitor as he just swallowed hard and became amiable to his ex's demands and just went through the motions for an easy life.
On the court day ,he walked in,agreed to what they said in front of a judge,then walked out thinking it was all water under the bridge.
If there is anyone out there that knows when and what year the Andover court closed and what they did with the records then i would be msot obliged to help him follow this up.
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