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He-he! As soon as the doors lock, I can start building (unpacking) the GTR...albeit without electricity.
I can run a power cord from the house. But, it's 200' from the house to the build location inside the shop. It's amazing how much current is lost in that distance...enough so that an air compressor won't run. While building the shop, we had to run 200' of air hose from the compressor which was plugged in at the house.
We may have to purchase a petrol-powered generator and use that until the electric company gets their act together. The shop needs enough juice to run a light and maybe a heater to make it habitable. 200A when Sierra Pacific (Pathetic) gets here.
There is a lot I can do without electricity...and there's still a bunch of set-up to do.
I can run a power cord from the house. But, it's 200' from the house to the build location inside the shop. It's amazing how much current is lost in that distance...enough so that an air compressor won't run. While building the shop, we had to run 200' of air hose from the compressor which was plugged in at the house.
We may have to purchase a petrol-powered generator and use that until the electric company gets their act together. The shop needs enough juice to run a light and maybe a heater to make it habitable. 200A when Sierra Pacific (Pathetic) gets here.
There is a lot I can do without electricity...and there's still a bunch of set-up to do.
crazy of cookham said:Hmmm...power station. Naw...I better not. I have a GTR to build.
...That will take a small power station to heat that.
I know what you mean. The eave is 14', but the ridge is 17'-4". Big volume to heat. I am thinking of some clear, plastic drop sheets for a partition in the winter. Wanted the height for the lift so I can work on small trucks, too. I will live on engine heat.
Yes, that's snow on there. I just got the doors on today and the snow was blowing in over the weekend... 10" at the house.

mkoch1 said:So, what were you thinking before?
That thing is beautiful. With such a nice shop the build quality I expect to see from you just went up.
mark
Yes, it's a big, beautiful shop...with nothing in it!!! I can picture a welding station, a break, maybe a tube bender, media blaster, paint booth, powder coating, solvent tank, chrome plating, shear, emissions testing, engnie and chassis dyno, and a couple of engine bore and line hones, maybe ultrasonic testing, autoclave, vacuum bagging, laser cutting/marking and a few other things. 
builder said:
So, what were you thinking before? Yes, it's a big, beautiful shop...with nothing in it!!! I can picture a welding station, a break, maybe a tube bender, media blaster, paint booth, powder coating, solvent tank, chrome plating, shear, emissions testing, engnie and chassis dyno, and a couple of engine bore and line hones, maybe ultrasonic testing, autoclave, vacuum bagging, laser cutting/marking and a few other things.
Dayum!! That is a long list of goodies. Hell, sounds like you will need a crew just to run all of that equipment. Hmmmmm, wonder if I can convince the wife to move to Reno!(grin) Can't wait to see some pics from unpacking the GTR. I remember the one of everything crammed in your current garage. Good luck.
Scott - that is an awesome space. I'm glad to hear that its finally getting finished. That is a huge space! I built my Ultima in about 1200 square feet of garage space and I felt like a king with space all around at every stage.
The walls on the "hangar" look a bit weird in the photos - are they solid on the outside? Whats the construction? The place is so big it looks almost like a steel frame aircraft hangar. Can you email me the name of the construction firm?
I'm planning on adding another space onto the house, equivalent to a 4 car-bay garage. I'll use the original garage for storing cars, and the extra space for my next car project (and some other non-car projects). But seeing your space here makes me wonder if I shouldn't go for a simple stand-alone structure.
BTW: In terms of running 110v power over 200 feet, get high quality power cables and you will be fine. Don't use extension cords. Commercial grade power conduit will do the trick - might cost you $1.20 per foot or more but you'll make 25 amp appliances work fine. Welders may not work though - get commercial three phase power for that.
The walls on the "hangar" look a bit weird in the photos - are they solid on the outside? Whats the construction? The place is so big it looks almost like a steel frame aircraft hangar. Can you email me the name of the construction firm?
I'm planning on adding another space onto the house, equivalent to a 4 car-bay garage. I'll use the original garage for storing cars, and the extra space for my next car project (and some other non-car projects). But seeing your space here makes me wonder if I shouldn't go for a simple stand-alone structure.
BTW: In terms of running 110v power over 200 feet, get high quality power cables and you will be fine. Don't use extension cords. Commercial grade power conduit will do the trick - might cost you $1.20 per foot or more but you'll make 25 amp appliances work fine. Welders may not work though - get commercial three phase power for that.
Hey Craig,
Yeah, started organizing yesterday. It's going to be really great in there. Long term, I have plans to put in an office and a biffy. It's been a huge delay building this shop, but finally, it's a place to construct the Ultima.
The building is of 100% steel construction. It's 40x72x14 feet and the snow load is 114 lbs. ground. The snow load calculates out to 85 lbs. on the 2:12 pitched roof. We are in an "Exposure 'C' High Wind" area. That means the structure can withstand a sustained 85mph wind. The seismic loading is zone 3. The walls are insulated with large, single pieces of fiberglass insulation that are up to 9' wide and the length of the side-wall (14'), or a side of the roof (22'). The insulation tends to billow out a little because it is compressed by the fasteners between the outside sheeting and the purlins (horizontal wall beams). This building is manufactured by Wedg-Cor (HQ in Denver, with manufacturing in S. Dakota.
I learned a great deal about building structures through this...more than I wanted to! But, it was worth it (dollar-wise) to put it up myself (with labor help). Even though it was a learning experience, it still took way-way-way longer than I had allowed, and put my schedule way behind on other plans...like building the GTR and launching my business.
On the extension cords, good suggestion. Since I am getting power soon, I will use that $$$ for cabling on the inside...or maybe an extra goodie for the tool box.
Craig, if you go for a stand-alone, give me a call. I am fully qualified to outline the challenges and mitigating steps you may be facing.
-- Scott
Yeah, started organizing yesterday. It's going to be really great in there. Long term, I have plans to put in an office and a biffy. It's been a huge delay building this shop, but finally, it's a place to construct the Ultima.
The building is of 100% steel construction. It's 40x72x14 feet and the snow load is 114 lbs. ground. The snow load calculates out to 85 lbs. on the 2:12 pitched roof. We are in an "Exposure 'C' High Wind" area. That means the structure can withstand a sustained 85mph wind. The seismic loading is zone 3. The walls are insulated with large, single pieces of fiberglass insulation that are up to 9' wide and the length of the side-wall (14'), or a side of the roof (22'). The insulation tends to billow out a little because it is compressed by the fasteners between the outside sheeting and the purlins (horizontal wall beams). This building is manufactured by Wedg-Cor (HQ in Denver, with manufacturing in S. Dakota.
I learned a great deal about building structures through this...more than I wanted to! But, it was worth it (dollar-wise) to put it up myself (with labor help). Even though it was a learning experience, it still took way-way-way longer than I had allowed, and put my schedule way behind on other plans...like building the GTR and launching my business.
On the extension cords, good suggestion. Since I am getting power soon, I will use that $$$ for cabling on the inside...or maybe an extra goodie for the tool box.
Craig, if you go for a stand-alone, give me a call. I am fully qualified to outline the challenges and mitigating steps you may be facing.
-- Scott
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