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Okay guys where are we standing right now?
Over last summer I got the overwhelming impression that the club was lacking an up to date website. What brought a lot of us together was this forum, although as it got busier it became a bit overcrowded due to it being basically one message board.
From the committees point of view we needed a website to advertise the club with - the internet being most peoples first port of call when trying to find things in this day & age.
So what happened - we produced a website that was pretty well recieved by yourselves and promoted in the kit car press. The best part of the new site was (is) its new forum which is now catagorised to make searching much simpler. With over 1300 posts in just over 3 months its also a great advert for the club - the club which although not running quite like clockwork just yet, is running at a pace which was probably unthinkable 12 months ago.
Why am I telling you this? Simple really - the reason is that I cannot fathom why members of the club continue to use this forum. If there is room for improvement on the new forum then why not suggest it - rather than undo a load of hard work by people who aren't on a JOC payroll - have families - have other commitments - have put a shed load of road mileage & midnight oil in over the last year to get the club back on track???
I know some have complained that non-members cannot use the new forum. This is actually untrue. There was a problem with a user of the forum which had to be addressed. The easiest way of tackling that problem was to introduce a section for non-members to post on (they can still view the rest), leaving the bulk of the forum for paying members. I refuse to believe that anyone that fanatical about Jagos can't stump up the subscription when able to own a kit car - its hardly expensive at £15 is it? (£12 for renewals!)
I suppose this will spark off an interesting discussion over the next week - I look forward to participating in it.
Yours,
Swizz...Club Sec'
Over last summer I got the overwhelming impression that the club was lacking an up to date website. What brought a lot of us together was this forum, although as it got busier it became a bit overcrowded due to it being basically one message board.
From the committees point of view we needed a website to advertise the club with - the internet being most peoples first port of call when trying to find things in this day & age.
So what happened - we produced a website that was pretty well recieved by yourselves and promoted in the kit car press. The best part of the new site was (is) its new forum which is now catagorised to make searching much simpler. With over 1300 posts in just over 3 months its also a great advert for the club - the club which although not running quite like clockwork just yet, is running at a pace which was probably unthinkable 12 months ago.
Why am I telling you this? Simple really - the reason is that I cannot fathom why members of the club continue to use this forum. If there is room for improvement on the new forum then why not suggest it - rather than undo a load of hard work by people who aren't on a JOC payroll - have families - have other commitments - have put a shed load of road mileage & midnight oil in over the last year to get the club back on track???
I know some have complained that non-members cannot use the new forum. This is actually untrue. There was a problem with a user of the forum which had to be addressed. The easiest way of tackling that problem was to introduce a section for non-members to post on (they can still view the rest), leaving the bulk of the forum for paying members. I refuse to believe that anyone that fanatical about Jagos can't stump up the subscription when able to own a kit car - its hardly expensive at £15 is it? (£12 for renewals!)
I suppose this will spark off an interesting discussion over the next week - I look forward to participating in it.
Yours,
Swizz...Club Sec'
Here's a surprise...'another' posting by good old driftwood.
Personally I was glad to see the new JOC Web-site up and running. It gave me the chance to post my own brand of 'humour'(without getting my wrists slapped) as well as continuing the friendship that I'd built up some of the membership. This particular forum has been nothing but brilliant for a source of technical information, and has been a good springboard for getting Jago owners together. Todate, this has now been bettered by the introduction of the new JOC Web-site.
When the JOC Web-site first appeared, it was a hive of activity with both members and non-members freely contributing. I can see and understand the reasons for having a section to allow 'newbies'/ non-JOC members.....but I do feel this may have given 'newbies' the (wrong) impression that they're not welcome or able to post on the new site. Perhaps I'm wrong...perhaps those 'newbies' that posted on the JOC Web-site and no longer do will, as Swizz asks, give their reasons. If they don't want to publicly give their reasons, send Ian a P.M. or e-mail.
It doesn't take too much working out by looking at my profile and looking at previous posts on here, that I contibute on the JOC Web-site AND this one. WHY???? If, it is to the detriment of the JOC, then I apologise. But, there's a couple of reasons as well that immediately spring to my mind. Why shouldn't I for a start? and ...WHY do I?
I post on here, 'cos it's here. Some times people need a bit of help and assistance on here so why not help? Those eagle eyed amongst you will note that I haven't started a thread on here recently, and have constantly posted here trying to 'guide' potential members to the JOC Web-site, so much so that it's a wonder I haven't got slapped wrists from Petrol Ted (as if he ain't got better things to do)I guess you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
Equally, I haven't posted much recently on the JOC Web-site. (since Christmas to be precise).
I have no intention whatsoever in publicising my personal circumstances on here, but it's safe to say that 'good old driftwood' hasn't felt like posting in his usual up-beat style, so I've left raising new threads to other people, after all...it's the Jago Owners' site...not Driftwoods. But, as usual, it's left to the usual 'few' to keep things going it seems. And I ain't going to keep answering my own 'Jago Holiday in Cornwall'thread where only one committee member and one other JOC member has replied to. (Six postings on that particular thread of which four are mine...over sixty viewings ???)
I guess Swizz, depending on how many can be bothered to reply to this thread, the answer may well lay with closing this particular Forum down...or if the membership continue to avoid posting on the new site, fail to send in contributions to Transmissions and not willing or show the enthusiasm of 'The Few' (and I think it's fair to say...I know who the few are)....then perhaps a drastic rethink is called for.
Personally I was glad to see the new JOC Web-site up and running. It gave me the chance to post my own brand of 'humour'(without getting my wrists slapped) as well as continuing the friendship that I'd built up some of the membership. This particular forum has been nothing but brilliant for a source of technical information, and has been a good springboard for getting Jago owners together. Todate, this has now been bettered by the introduction of the new JOC Web-site.
When the JOC Web-site first appeared, it was a hive of activity with both members and non-members freely contributing. I can see and understand the reasons for having a section to allow 'newbies'/ non-JOC members.....but I do feel this may have given 'newbies' the (wrong) impression that they're not welcome or able to post on the new site. Perhaps I'm wrong...perhaps those 'newbies' that posted on the JOC Web-site and no longer do will, as Swizz asks, give their reasons. If they don't want to publicly give their reasons, send Ian a P.M. or e-mail.
It doesn't take too much working out by looking at my profile and looking at previous posts on here, that I contibute on the JOC Web-site AND this one. WHY???? If, it is to the detriment of the JOC, then I apologise. But, there's a couple of reasons as well that immediately spring to my mind. Why shouldn't I for a start? and ...WHY do I?
I post on here, 'cos it's here. Some times people need a bit of help and assistance on here so why not help? Those eagle eyed amongst you will note that I haven't started a thread on here recently, and have constantly posted here trying to 'guide' potential members to the JOC Web-site, so much so that it's a wonder I haven't got slapped wrists from Petrol Ted (as if he ain't got better things to do)I guess you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
Equally, I haven't posted much recently on the JOC Web-site. (since Christmas to be precise).
I have no intention whatsoever in publicising my personal circumstances on here, but it's safe to say that 'good old driftwood' hasn't felt like posting in his usual up-beat style, so I've left raising new threads to other people, after all...it's the Jago Owners' site...not Driftwoods. But, as usual, it's left to the usual 'few' to keep things going it seems. And I ain't going to keep answering my own 'Jago Holiday in Cornwall'thread where only one committee member and one other JOC member has replied to. (Six postings on that particular thread of which four are mine...over sixty viewings ???)
I guess Swizz, depending on how many can be bothered to reply to this thread, the answer may well lay with closing this particular Forum down...or if the membership continue to avoid posting on the new site, fail to send in contributions to Transmissions and not willing or show the enthusiasm of 'The Few' (and I think it's fair to say...I know who the few are)....then perhaps a drastic rethink is called for.
having been to a fair number of shows and met a considerable number of folks with Jagos who arnt members of the club for a variety of reasons from "i joined once and didnt get anything" to "i aint joining a club they're stupid" and that is their choice - but it does mean there are jago people out there who will never join the club - and they can post freely on this forum. You know my opinions of removing that level of freedom from your forum so i wont dwell on that but will comment that since you made that decision its died with only a few very regular members posting making it seem quite "clicky" to outsiders as the posts are more akin to chats between people who know each other generally.
bottom line is it aint that interesting and the token newbie section just isnt friedly and welcoming to people thinking of joining the club - we are a friendly club and i dont think the new forum reflects that or my personal attitude to the JOG i shall raise it as a subject at stoneleigh because i feel strongly that we are not putting across as good a public image that the new site once created and as such will probably stand down from the committee so if anyone else wants to be tech sec my heart and enthusiasm are no longer behind the club so feel free
bottom line is it aint that interesting and the token newbie section just isnt friedly and welcoming to people thinking of joining the club - we are a friendly club and i dont think the new forum reflects that or my personal attitude to the JOG i shall raise it as a subject at stoneleigh because i feel strongly that we are not putting across as good a public image that the new site once created and as such will probably stand down from the committee so if anyone else wants to be tech sec my heart and enthusiasm are no longer behind the club so feel free
When I fire up the old HAL9000 in the evening, this is the first site I visit because I'm "remembered" and don't have to log in to either read or respond. I also use another PistonHeads board so access is quick between the two. I then check out the "10 most recent" posts on the Jago site and login in to respond if I wish.
As it's here, I'll read and use it. I prefer the simple format but I'm not averse to change.
Cheers
Ian
As it's here, I'll read and use it. I prefer the simple format but I'm not averse to change.
Cheers
Ian
Hi Swizz,
The new forum is certainly more colourful and organised but as you point out this one has served Jago lovers well
I post in both forums as they seem to have different groups of members, I also post in several other kit car forums but have never paid to post- if the Club truly does welcome new members or potentially new members asking them to subscribe will certainly put people off and I cannot see why the rule was introduced- if you register you can post in most car sites (like this one!) so why should the new one be so different? Quite often you see something which you can comment on or help with even if you are not exactly a Dutton owner, Robin Hood owner/ Locost builder, Scamp owner or whate ever else it might be, the common donors to many of these cars tend toblur boundaries and as Jago owners we might be cutting our own throats by limiting the forum.
Not trying to be critical or negative but it is the obvious reasomn that I can see, unless someone else has different ideas?
The new forum is certainly more colourful and organised but as you point out this one has served Jago lovers well
I post in both forums as they seem to have different groups of members, I also post in several other kit car forums but have never paid to post- if the Club truly does welcome new members or potentially new members asking them to subscribe will certainly put people off and I cannot see why the rule was introduced- if you register you can post in most car sites (like this one!) so why should the new one be so different? Quite often you see something which you can comment on or help with even if you are not exactly a Dutton owner, Robin Hood owner/ Locost builder, Scamp owner or whate ever else it might be, the common donors to many of these cars tend toblur boundaries and as Jago owners we might be cutting our own throats by limiting the forum.
Not trying to be critical or negative but it is the obvious reasomn that I can see, unless someone else has different ideas?
Started writing reply this morning and left it open until time allowed, completed my thoughts and sent it off,then discovered a pile of other replies!!
Sad to see Drsegs comments as I rate him as a true enthusiast of the Jago Club and wouldn't like to see this kind of business unfold as a result of changes to a website -at the end of the day we are hands on kit car owners who enjoy tinkering/ chattering but it should be an all embracing welcoming club for anyone interested in the car. Sticking my neck out I would guess that many Jago owners would support that view, getting them all to part with cash, supply articles for magazine, volunteeer to take on duties for the club etc may be a separate issue!!!!!!
Sad to see Drsegs comments as I rate him as a true enthusiast of the Jago Club and wouldn't like to see this kind of business unfold as a result of changes to a website -at the end of the day we are hands on kit car owners who enjoy tinkering/ chattering but it should be an all embracing welcoming club for anyone interested in the car. Sticking my neck out I would guess that many Jago owners would support that view, getting them all to part with cash, supply articles for magazine, volunteeer to take on duties for the club etc may be a separate issue!!!!!!
trextr7monkey said:
Hi Swizz,
I also post in several other kit car forums but have never paid to post- ...........if the Club truly does welcome new members or potentially new members asking them to subscribe will certainly put people off and I cannot see why the rule was introduced-........... if you register you can post in most car sites (like this one!) so why should the new one be so different? ..............Quite often you see something which you can comment on or help with even .................. and as Jago owners we might be cutting our own throats by limiting the forum.
Well put Mike.......and I can agree with Dave's point that the new Forum 'died' as soon as we lost the facility to openly chat with whoever wanted to post, whether they were members or not.
If you recall the amount of material I collected for the Rod Section of the Jago site, from the Street Rod'ers, not once was I told that I had to join their club to be able to post/speak to whoever/where ever....all that I was asked was to post on the correct part of their forum.
And yes, I know that a 'newbie' section has been allocated for non-members, and as I've already stated, I know why this has been done, but it is becoming pretty clear that it just hasn't worked. What the JOC Committee decide to do about it is up to them, there are two easy choices....stick with it, or reverse the desicion. The difficult part may well be getting the lost contributers back.
I have used both forums and have to admit that I prefer the layout of PistonHeads for general chat, but am getting used the the JOC format and have no problem reading and posting there. Like Ian I check both forums regularly, along with a Peugeot site and a couple of bike forums. No one should restrict themselves to just one. The PH site was invaluable when I put the Geep back on the road and I hope that the JOC forum can be as much help to others in the future. I like the fact that the JOC site is divided into categories and one gets used to where everything is located after a while.
The revised JOC site is great, loads of information for members and those visitors who are just interested in a great looking fun car, Geep or otherwise. I do feel however that to restrict the forum to members-only limits the variety of potential contributors. The description next to each user shows their status so that at least denotes who is or is not a member? The input that has gone into creating a varied and interesting site for Jago owners has to be applauded, and if it carries on the way it has started then I think we can look forward to many more interesting years of club growth.
However, I still enjoy reading the posts on both sites even though the dynamics of the PH forum has changed as described in this thread.
Finally I am sad to read drseg's comments and intention to stand down. Please don't! You have provided a wealth of information to anyone who has posted problems, you have always been helpful and have also been a key part of the resurgence of the club - the 'Tales from after closing time' are always great to read!
I hope that the forum issue is resolved, and perhaps if the club forum continues to be members only we can also continue to monitor the PH forum for any interesting threads and potential new members.
Pete
The revised JOC site is great, loads of information for members and those visitors who are just interested in a great looking fun car, Geep or otherwise. I do feel however that to restrict the forum to members-only limits the variety of potential contributors. The description next to each user shows their status so that at least denotes who is or is not a member? The input that has gone into creating a varied and interesting site for Jago owners has to be applauded, and if it carries on the way it has started then I think we can look forward to many more interesting years of club growth.
However, I still enjoy reading the posts on both sites even though the dynamics of the PH forum has changed as described in this thread.
Finally I am sad to read drseg's comments and intention to stand down. Please don't! You have provided a wealth of information to anyone who has posted problems, you have always been helpful and have also been a key part of the resurgence of the club - the 'Tales from after closing time' are always great to read!
I hope that the forum issue is resolved, and perhaps if the club forum continues to be members only we can also continue to monitor the PH forum for any interesting threads and potential new members.
Pete
I'm sorry to read some of the comments here - I, like many others, had my first contact with Jagoers here on this site and still visit on a frequent basis - and yes - I aggree that this forum is usually seen to be more about discussions between individuals who know the people they are addressing.
But the new site is also a very positive advance and I aggree that both sites are openly accessable to everyone - the nature of the internet demands sites like the newer one, but, the downside is that people not used to browsing would be more at home here - no worries about key strokes, browsing in a new window or the like - in a nutshell technophobes and newbies are more at home here.
The newer site is a positive advance and all (contributing) members of the current committee are to be congratulated for raising the profile of the club once again.
I owe debts of gratitude to many of you - especially you Drseg - where would I and so many others have gone for help when all hope seemed to be lost? Your contribution is invaluable and very much appreciated!
on a social - we will never again reach the ceiling without you - AND WHEN WE NEXT MEET ITS MY ROUND!
But the new site is also a very positive advance and I aggree that both sites are openly accessable to everyone - the nature of the internet demands sites like the newer one, but, the downside is that people not used to browsing would be more at home here - no worries about key strokes, browsing in a new window or the like - in a nutshell technophobes and newbies are more at home here.
The newer site is a positive advance and all (contributing) members of the current committee are to be congratulated for raising the profile of the club once again.
I owe debts of gratitude to many of you - especially you Drseg - where would I and so many others have gone for help when all hope seemed to be lost? Your contribution is invaluable and very much appreciated!
on a social - we will never again reach the ceiling without you - AND WHEN WE NEXT MEET ITS MY ROUND!
The problem with the Pistonheads site is also its appeal , simplicity , it has served the club well for basic discussion purposes for some years but is not the online focal point the club needs , and as we have discovered in the last few days is not immune to unwelcome attention from the hackers.
The confusion over www.jagoownersclub.co.uk is the misconception that you HAVE to pay to use it , yes the ability to post in ALL areas is one benefit of joining the club , but you also receive your quarterly magazine and 15% insurance discount all for the equivalent of only £1 per month.
A Non-member CAN post to their hearts content in the Newbie section about any topic so I do not see it as a problem at all , like many other users of the new site I will continue to visit here on a regular basis.
The confusion over www.jagoownersclub.co.uk is the misconception that you HAVE to pay to use it , yes the ability to post in ALL areas is one benefit of joining the club , but you also receive your quarterly magazine and 15% insurance discount all for the equivalent of only £1 per month.
A Non-member CAN post to their hearts content in the Newbie section about any topic so I do not see it as a problem at all , like many other users of the new site I will continue to visit here on a regular basis.
Hopefully this little glitch is drawing to a close. However, I would just like to add some of my recent club experiences into the mix.
Firstly, before I joined the Jago Owners Club, I was a member of the Cortina Owners Club. Being the owner of a near mint Mk5 (yes I still want to sell it Mark - its just getting round to it!) I thought this would be a usefull move and expenditure. The club site was almost completely inactive could only be fully accessed by paid up club members and was a very poor substitute for phoning the other club members to ask for advice. Even then the querries were often met with silence at the other end of the phone! I presume because club members enthusiasm was a little short of technical knowledge.
More recently I joined the Saab Enthusiasts Club, as I have a classic900. Cost was similar to the Jago Club. Again the website was barren in the forum area. Was not fully accessible to non members. And when I have tried to contact comittee members by phone to assist in pricing my car to sell it (yes I have too many) they have chosen to ignore my pleas for any help. This is the only assistance, to date, that I have ever asked for.
My point is, that no matter what the little dislikes we all have over the fine detailing of any club is, the ground rules are an inevitable compromise in order to 'knit together' a collection of individuals pasionate, and rightly, vocal about their hobby. Who also see the benefit of forming a group of people actively assisting each other in their mutual interest. This , above all, is the reason i am still a member of the JAGO OWNERS CLUB it is, by far and away, the best and most genuinely helpfull club I have so far been a member of.
Yours proudly
John King - Jago owner and Club member
Firstly, before I joined the Jago Owners Club, I was a member of the Cortina Owners Club. Being the owner of a near mint Mk5 (yes I still want to sell it Mark - its just getting round to it!) I thought this would be a usefull move and expenditure. The club site was almost completely inactive could only be fully accessed by paid up club members and was a very poor substitute for phoning the other club members to ask for advice. Even then the querries were often met with silence at the other end of the phone! I presume because club members enthusiasm was a little short of technical knowledge.
More recently I joined the Saab Enthusiasts Club, as I have a classic900. Cost was similar to the Jago Club. Again the website was barren in the forum area. Was not fully accessible to non members. And when I have tried to contact comittee members by phone to assist in pricing my car to sell it (yes I have too many) they have chosen to ignore my pleas for any help. This is the only assistance, to date, that I have ever asked for.
My point is, that no matter what the little dislikes we all have over the fine detailing of any club is, the ground rules are an inevitable compromise in order to 'knit together' a collection of individuals pasionate, and rightly, vocal about their hobby. Who also see the benefit of forming a group of people actively assisting each other in their mutual interest. This , above all, is the reason i am still a member of the JAGO OWNERS CLUB it is, by far and away, the best and most genuinely helpfull club I have so far been a member of.
Yours proudly
John King - Jago owner and Club member
A week ago when I stirred up this discussion, figures wise this site had enjoyed just over 100 posts since Dec 8th and increased its members by around 5.
The new forum on the other hand had recieved over 350 posts and welcomed around 20 new members.
Why the rant then? As the new forum was changed to restrict posts from non-members (although they could still view the rest) the guy who prompted the changes began to spam this forum which had been pretty stagnant for a couple of months. Joining him was a couple of club members, one who even went as far as recommending Pistonheads to a non member - hardly a good way of attracting new members.
Top and bottom of it is the new forum didn't die, wasn't inactive (and certainly isn't now), or seemingly unwelcoming. Jon has just given two examples of other car clubs he has had experience with. To be honest I don't reckon either can blame their shortcomings on restricting forum access. If the members or committee's involved don't want to reply to enquiries made then that is down to an inactive membership and more importantly an inactive committee. That isn't a path i'd like to see our club treading, I just wish that more efforts could be directed towards those who want to be part of an owners club rather than towards a few that do not.
Pistonheads has served the club well and there is a lot of valueable discussion within its pages which is well worth searching through as a reference. Having said that IMHO i'd like to see this forum frozen along with a link to the new site although that is just my personal opinion.
To those who have, thanks for offering your views.
Swizz...Club Sec'
The new forum on the other hand had recieved over 350 posts and welcomed around 20 new members.
Why the rant then? As the new forum was changed to restrict posts from non-members (although they could still view the rest) the guy who prompted the changes began to spam this forum which had been pretty stagnant for a couple of months. Joining him was a couple of club members, one who even went as far as recommending Pistonheads to a non member - hardly a good way of attracting new members.
Top and bottom of it is the new forum didn't die, wasn't inactive (and certainly isn't now), or seemingly unwelcoming. Jon has just given two examples of other car clubs he has had experience with. To be honest I don't reckon either can blame their shortcomings on restricting forum access. If the members or committee's involved don't want to reply to enquiries made then that is down to an inactive membership and more importantly an inactive committee. That isn't a path i'd like to see our club treading, I just wish that more efforts could be directed towards those who want to be part of an owners club rather than towards a few that do not.
Pistonheads has served the club well and there is a lot of valueable discussion within its pages which is well worth searching through as a reference. Having said that IMHO i'd like to see this forum frozen along with a link to the new site although that is just my personal opinion.
To those who have, thanks for offering your views.
Swizz...Club Sec'
Hi all,
This is interesting reading....
I don't think non-members should be excluded from the new site, or have any restrictions. It's a bit divisive and WILL make the club seem to be trying to penalise non-members. I can understand the reasons for this I just don't agree with it.
I wasn't a member for some years after I built my Geep, partly because I like to do things 'on my own' just to see if I can do them, but I now realise that if I had been a member earlier it would have been much much easier. If I had been able to realise the benefits of becoming a member I would have done it much sooner, and the best way of attracting new members IMHO is to allow non-members to post in the same way as members and get them involved.
Non-members may have as much to contribute (opinions and bits) as members, they just haven't coughed up the membership fee. Let's allow them to take part and encourage them to become members. Perhaps as part of the registration process for posting on the new site we can insist on an email address so we can pester them with requests for membership fees!!
I don't look at this site very often now, not because there's anything wrong with it, in a couple of ways it's easier to use, I was just expecting everyone to use the new site.
I would like to thank everyone involved in setting up the new site - it IS good, and promotes a more 'professional' image (in the sense that the club looks very well organised rather than only OK)
>> Edited by dave the steam on Saturday 4th February 17:47
This is interesting reading....
I don't think non-members should be excluded from the new site, or have any restrictions. It's a bit divisive and WILL make the club seem to be trying to penalise non-members. I can understand the reasons for this I just don't agree with it.
I wasn't a member for some years after I built my Geep, partly because I like to do things 'on my own' just to see if I can do them, but I now realise that if I had been a member earlier it would have been much much easier. If I had been able to realise the benefits of becoming a member I would have done it much sooner, and the best way of attracting new members IMHO is to allow non-members to post in the same way as members and get them involved.
Non-members may have as much to contribute (opinions and bits) as members, they just haven't coughed up the membership fee. Let's allow them to take part and encourage them to become members. Perhaps as part of the registration process for posting on the new site we can insist on an email address so we can pester them with requests for membership fees!!
I don't look at this site very often now, not because there's anything wrong with it, in a couple of ways it's easier to use, I was just expecting everyone to use the new site.
I would like to thank everyone involved in setting up the new site - it IS good, and promotes a more 'professional' image (in the sense that the club looks very well organised rather than only OK)
>> Edited by dave the steam on Saturday 4th February 17:47
Club.Ed.TONKA said:
The problem with the Pistonheads site is also its appeal , simplicity , it has served the club well for basic discussion purposes for some years but is not the online focal point the club needs , and as we have discovered in the last few days is not immune to unwelcome attention from the hackers.
Hi,
Could I just lay that rumour to rest please. Any technical problems with the site (such as pages disappearing) were entirely down to me and my meddling (er.. programming). PistonHeads and these forums are in constant development and - as any programmer will know - it's all to easy to let changes slip into production before they're ready.
I've been working on the forums in particular to speed them up and resolve the access issues that you may have suffered due to servers getting too busy.
The PH servers remain secure and we've only suffered one successful Denial of Service attack in the last seven years.
I hope you continue to use the forums and I can understand the motivation for setting up dedicated forums under your own banner. Hopefully some of the new features I'm working on will help keep you here
Thanks,
Ted
(Owner of PH)
IanA said:
Petrol Ted said: "Any technical problems with the site (such as pages disappearing) were entirely down to me and my meddling (er.. programming)"
So- 'hacking' using the original meaning of the word !!!
Cheers
Ian (twenty-mumble years in IT)
I do like it when people use the hacking term correctly, I do like hacking my way through a good IT problem 
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