Accident - Please advice who was at fault
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Car A and Car B approach the roundabout from a dual carraigeway. Car A takes the left hand lane, Car B takes the right hand lane
Car B signals and takes the second exit to leave the roundabout back onto the dual carraigeway (into lane 2)
Car A stays on the roundabout, without signalling and attempts to turn right onto the B-road, and hits the rear of Car B
Please tell me who is at fault, and why
Regards
Iain
Car A and Car B approach the roundabout from a dual carraigeway. Car A takes the left hand lane, Car B takes the right hand lane
Car B signals and takes the second exit to leave the roundabout back onto the dual carraigeway (into lane 2)
Car A stays on the roundabout, without signalling and attempts to turn right onto the B-road, and hits the rear of Car B
Please tell me who is at fault, and why
Regards
Iain
Car A is attempting to turn right from lane 1, which is a no-no, but not only that, they were also unaware of the presence of another car in lane 2, when they need to cut across lane 2 to make their right turn from lane 1.
Car A is in the wrong, but also very commonplace these days, no end of idiots trying to turn right from lane 1, happens on my way to work each day at two roundabouts in particular, you can gaurantee it, one of the roundabouts is on a T junction, lane 1 for left, lane 2 for right, there is no straight on, yet often there are idiots trying to turn right from lane 1. If you want some video to demonstrate what happened in principal but at another location, I reckon I could get it for you on the way to work tomorrow.
>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Sunday 22 January 19:34
Car A is in the wrong, but also very commonplace these days, no end of idiots trying to turn right from lane 1, happens on my way to work each day at two roundabouts in particular, you can gaurantee it, one of the roundabouts is on a T junction, lane 1 for left, lane 2 for right, there is no straight on, yet often there are idiots trying to turn right from lane 1. If you want some video to demonstrate what happened in principal but at another location, I reckon I could get it for you on the way to work tomorrow.
>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Sunday 22 January 19:34
Thanks all, this has cemented my feelings
This happened to me today, old woman tried to turn right at the roundabout, hit my rear quite voilently forcing me into a spin, i corrected it one way, but it snapped back too quickly and I ended up head first into the barrier, and facing the wrong way.
I'm just dreading the point where she turns round and says somehow it's my fault for 'crossing her path' or 'speeding' or other such nonsense
Cheers
Iain
This happened to me today, old woman tried to turn right at the roundabout, hit my rear quite voilently forcing me into a spin, i corrected it one way, but it snapped back too quickly and I ended up head first into the barrier, and facing the wrong way.
I'm just dreading the point where she turns round and says somehow it's my fault for 'crossing her path' or 'speeding' or other such nonsense
Cheers
Iain
Mac GT said:
Thanks all, this has cemented my feelings
This happened to me today, old woman tried to turn right at the roundabout, hit my rear quite voilently forcing me into a spin, i corrected it one way, but it snapped back too quickly and I ended up head first into the barrier, and facing the wrong way.
I'm just dreading the point where she turns round and says somehow it's my fault for 'crossing her path' or 'speeding' or other such nonsense
Cheers
Iain
No witnesses?
ledfoot said:
CAR B is in the wrong
failed to observe CAR A turning right
that is the way insurance companies will view this.
You are expected to avoid conflicts.
How can i avoid a car hitting me from behind?
If she was signalling right, i'd have realised she was a numpty and i'd have dropped back to find out what she intended to do
stone said:
CAR B is in the wrong
failed to observe CAR A turning right
that is the way insurance companies will view this.
You are expected to avoid conflicts.
I can understand this viewpoint if i'd have broadsided her, or if i'd have run into the side of her car
You have me very worried with that statement, my fear is that the insurance assessor will share your opinion
Mac GT said:
CAR B is in the wrong
failed to observe CAR A turning right
that is the way insurance companies will view this.
You are expected to avoid conflicts.
I can understand this viewpoint if i'd have broadsided her, or if i'd have run into the side of her car
You have me very worried with that statement, my fear is that the insurance assessor will share your opinion
I wouldnt worry. I think he is winding you up.
As far as I can see, if you want to turn right at a roundabout, you must approach in the right hand lane and indicate right. It looks like she did neither.
To advocate any position other than this, for example to say that you are in the wrong, it would be saying that everyone who performs the legal and commonplace manouvre you did should wait on the roundabout and give way to people to the left of you, despite their road position and lack of indication *just in case* they decide to then turn right...
www.highwaycode.gov.uk/17.htm#160
Diagram appears to indicate that CAR B should be in inside lane to go straight on.
Diagram appears to indicate that CAR B should be in inside lane to go straight on.
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