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JT944

Original Poster:

283 posts

250 months

Wednesday 25th January 2006
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what is a 951

iguana

7,331 posts

288 months

Wednesday 25th January 2006
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944 Turbo

henry-f

4,791 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th January 2006
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Which rather begs the question why people use the term 951 rather than just saying 944 turbo!

951 - ultra rare 439 body. 481 transmision & fitted 559 may sound cool but only 3 people in the country would ever know what we were selling !

Answers on postcard to .....

Keep smiling.

Henry

ripton

429 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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henry-f said:
Which rather begs the question why people use the term 951 rather than just saying 944 turbo!

951 - ultra rare 439 body. 481 transmision & fitted 559 may sound cool but only 3 people in the country would ever know what we were selling !

Answers on postcard to .....

Keep smiling.

Henry


439 - no idea
481 - 5 speed manual transmission
559 - a/c

I don't realy see the problem with calling it a 951, no different to using 930, 965. 993 etc.

Chris

david968s

415 posts

258 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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henry-f said:
Which rather begs the question why people use the term 951 rather than just saying 944 turbo!

951 - ultra rare 439 body. 481 transmision & fitted 559 may sound cool but only 3 people in the country would ever know what we were selling !

Answers on postcard to .....

Keep smiling.

Henry


Ahh, thats a manual 944 Turbo cab with aircon, n'est-ce pas?

tr7v8

7,615 posts

256 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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To be pedantic a 951 is a LHD 944 Turbo, whereas a RHD one would
be 952!

henry-f

4,791 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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Oui, c`est une 944 Turbo Cab avec the boit de vitesse manual. And do please forgive the spelling !

Now we`ve gone down this route before, a 944 turbo is a 944 turbo is a 944 turbo. (951 makes no distinction between 220 / 250bhp).

A 911 carrera is a 3.0 is a 3.2 is a 964, is a 993, is a 996 is a 997. So you really do need the model denominators to establish which car you`re talking about.

951 / 952, not sure about that. They all have a 951 chassis code (ie WP0ZZZ95ZMN1*****).

Henri

ripton

429 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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henry-f said:
Oui, c`est une 944 Turbo Cab avec the boit de vitesse manual. And do please forgive the spelling !

Now we`ve gone down this route before, a 944 turbo is a 944 turbo is a 944 turbo. (951 makes no distinction between 220 / 250bhp).

A 911 carrera is a 3.0 is a 3.2 is a 964, is a 993, is a 996 is a 997. So you really do need the model denominators to establish which car you`re talking about.

951 / 952, not sure about that. They all have a 951 chassis code (ie WP0ZZZ95ZMN1*****).

Henri


So what are the chassis codes of the various 911's? 964 for a 964 etc or do they all use 911?

Chris

henry-f

4,791 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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No, they use their repective codes, 964, 993, 996 etc. That`s how they got their model denominations.

The 3.2 Carrera just uses 911.

Henry

ripton

429 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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So if a 964 is called a 964 because of its chassis code why not call a 944 turbo a 951?

Chris

henry-f

4,791 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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Because there is no need to.

You only call a 911 Carrera 4 a 964 to save confusing it with a 993, 996, and 997 which could also be 911 Carrera 4`s. A 944 turbo is a 944 turbo. 1 shape and 1 shape alone.

Similarly a 930 is called so because a 911 turbo could be "carrera", 964, 993, 996 or soon 997 based.

It isn`t to try and be clever or part of an inner circle of knowledge, it`s to save confusion. It`s just the same a BMW 3 series` being reffered to by their "E" codes. (E46 etc).

Henry

ripton

429 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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Fair enough Henry.

I'll probably still call mine a 951 as it is quicker to type. I'm not trying to be clever or give it some sort of kudos it doesn't have. When I'm talking to people it gets called a 944 turbo or just a 944.

Chris

henry-f

4,791 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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The problem is it`s bloody confusing. Even I scratch my head when someone calls up offering a 987 for sale, (and for what it`s worth I do think the model denominations between Boxsters are worth while.

Henry

ripton

429 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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To avoid confusion, I will work back through all my previous posts and to edit them to read 944 turbo (87my 220hp)

henry-f

4,791 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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you jest but I bet there aren`t many readers of this forum who know what a 951 reffers to ! They all probably think you`ve got some 2 or 3 million pound ex-Le Mans winner and that`s why you keep getting all the begging letters & tax investigations

Henry

david968s

415 posts

258 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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Ahhhh....now I get it Henry! That is one of my top ever colours too, within price range and simply lovely. If only it was a diesel, it would make it onto my shortlist!

Actually, I'm very tempted anyway...does it have fitted 559 by any chance?

ripton

429 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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henry-f said:
you jest but I bet there aren`t many readers of this forum who know what a 951 reffers to ! They all probably think you`ve got some 2 or 3 million pound ex-Le Mans winner and that`s why you keep getting all the begging letters & tax investigations

Henry


I'm not sure about that, outside of this forum it may mean little or nothing, but I would have thought that in here it shouldn't confuse too many.

Nice turbo cab btw. what is it about 944's that make people want to crouch down when photographing them from the front?

Chris

iain_cam

689 posts

258 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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Right....

Due to the joys of eBay, I found myself woken up this morning by a loud thud from the front door.

'Twas a book, a fabulous book, called 'Porsche Specials' by Lothar Boschen and Jurgen Barth.

In the back, it has a Porsche type number index, and under 945 it says 'Right Hand Drive 944'. I don't know if a 951 in RHD is a 952 as the book was published in 1985.

Still, it's a great book. You should see if you could get a copy.

iain_cam

689 posts

258 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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Oh, and by the way Henry -

the 944 Turbo Cab on your website is AMAZING!!!!!

henry-f

4,791 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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Thanks for that. Re: the photo I wasn`t crouching. I`m only 2`3" tall.

Henry