Griff 500 bhp/torque figures

Griff 500 bhp/torque figures

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Painey

Original Poster:

534 posts

257 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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Just been reading SGirl's stuff about "Griff 500 transformed" and noted that most people seem to think that any 500 engine putting out over 300bhp is very good and seemingly quite rare.

I'm going to be buying my first Griff 500 soon and thought that bhp was nearer 320 with torque being around 320lbs/ft? It's even stated on this website as having 340bhp and 350lbs/ft which would be nice!!!

Having not ever been in one (unfortunately) is it a case of power fading after a few years? If this does happen does it affect the torque as well as this has more effect on the day to day performance after all?

I'm a bit lost on this one...

Cheers



johno

8,429 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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If you find a standard 500 doing 340bhp you are a better man than any man or woman on this site.

I do not believe they exist other than inaccurate rolling roads.

A 300 bhp one is a very good one.

squirrelz

1,186 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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If you do a bit of a search on the forums you'll find this has been done to death a few times.

TVR just use slightly smaller horses for measuring (perhaps they are the donkeys off the beach )

So a 5.0 RV8 puts out 340 TVR horses, but only 270 normal sized ones.

Likewise a 4.0 RV8 puts out 240 TVR horses, but only about 200 normal ones...

The actual performance stats are supposed to be reasonably accurate I believe, but I stand to be corrected by anyone who knows better

Editted to say that I opened this topic expecting to read about some insane Griffith with 500 bhp

>> Edited by squirrelz on Wednesday 11th December 14:08

steve-p

1,448 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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The claimed power outputs are a work of fiction, but the performance figures recorded by numerous magazines are not. And that's what really matters.

Painey

Original Poster:

534 posts

257 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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A 500bhp Griff now that would be something!!! Can see the possible misinterprtation of the title though so apologies to anyone who expects to be amazed!

Glad to hear the perrformance figures aren't porky pies though because yes, that is all that matters!!

phew.



2 Sheds

2,529 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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Oh SGirl, what have you done ?
Tim

prince_charming

2,646 posts

270 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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squirrelz said:

Likewise a 4.0 RV8 puts out 240 TVR horses, but only about 200 normal ones...

>> Edited by squirrelz on Wednesday 11th December 14:08


I'd go along with this, as a 4.0l Chimaera I drove felt like it had a very similar pull to my 200bhp Nissan 200sx.....

HarryW

15,154 posts

270 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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prince_charming said:

squirrelz said:

Likewise a 4.0 RV8 puts out 240 TVR horses, but only about 200 normal ones...

>> Edited by squirrelz on Wednesday 11th December 14:08


I'd go along with this, as a 4.0l Chimaera I drove felt like it had a very similar pull to my 200bhp Nissan 200sx.....




Does it weigh roughly the same then , always liked the look of the coupe 200sx

H

Ballistic Banana

14,698 posts

268 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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Painey said: A 500bhp Griff now that would be something!!!




Greary Powell of www.eliseparts.com built a 4 wheel drive turbocharged TVR Griffith with something in the region of 500bhp.

So there is a God and he lives near me

Now wheres my cheque book

BB

ncs

3,972 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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If you've never been in one then find a way to have a go. When you've done that you won't care what the bhp is.
I have no idea what the true bhp is on my Griff 500..all I know is it's neck breakingly quick & loads of fun, surely thats what counts?

Nick

Toffer

1,527 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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I have had a go in a Nissan 200NSX and they are pretty nippy (for a rice rocket) when you get them on boost...but to be honest the only similarity that the one I went in had to a modern TVR was that it leaked water!

Comparable performance...sorry nah! You could take a nap while you waited for the Nissan to catch-up Sounds like pub talk!

jodypress

1,929 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th December 2002
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i totally agree with ncs, its all in the driving pleasure and they are a lot of fun to drive.
i have been down that route of rolling roads, lots of cash spent on modifying and then some one out there has even more cash and more bhp.

i would only take it on rolling road if it ran ruff. mine does when cold but, so do most performance cars

s_i_hunter

58 posts

259 months

Tuesday 17th December 2002
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The Griff 500 in pre-serpintine form had a claimed (!!)340bhp and 350lbs/ft.

In serpintine form (after c 1997 and all chimps) the engine was detuned to aid 'around town driving' to 320bhp and 320 lbs/ft.


Cheers

trefor

14,635 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th December 2002
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HarryW said:

prince_charming said:

squirrelz said:

Likewise a 4.0 RV8 puts out 240 TVR horses, but only about 200 normal ones...

>> Edited by squirrelz on Wednesday 11th December 14:08


I'd go along with this, as a 4.0l Chimaera I drove felt like it had a very similar pull to my 200bhp Nissan 200sx.....




Does it weigh roughly the same then , always liked the look of the coupe 200sx

H




I had an N reg'd 200sx before my Chimaera which was uprated to 250ish hp. Once on boost it was about as fast as a std 4.0L Chimaera. The Nissan was much harder to handle in the wet and had wads less torque low down though - a very different drive.

T/.

Prince_Charming

2,646 posts

270 months

Tuesday 17th December 2002
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That's true - low down (i.e. sub 3000rpm), the Nissan is absolutely gutless - then you get the ole kick in the back....

Scoobysnack

282 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th December 2002
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Well I'll let you know , as my Griff 5.0 is on the rollers tomorrow .....

J