Piano for beginner
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Davel

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8,982 posts

289 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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My daughter is 10 and currently is learning to play the guitar. She seems to be gifted at it, according to the teachers and those that listen to her etc. She's been playing for a couple of years now and is very keen.

She now wants to learn to play the piano too (but not at the same time!) and I'd like some advice.

Thinking of buying a digital piano, with weighted keys, as I am told that a keyboard would be a bad way to start. She has her first lesson this week and clearly I'm not buying until I'm sure that she wants to carry on.

Any ideas on a relatively inexpensive digital piano or source of a decent s/h one please?

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

265 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Just get an upright piano, loads of them on Ebay/Loot for around the £100 mark.

love machine

7,609 posts

266 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Digital is good as a beginner needs a decent instrument. Try an old Yamaha Clavinova. Get one which has a stand/pedals, Ie not a portable.

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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As long as it has full size and properly weighted keys (ie a proper piano action) then that's all you need to worry about,

dmitsi

3,583 posts

251 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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I'd second getting a piano if you have the space. For learning it's so simple and direct. If you are getting a keyboard then make sure it's decent enough, I wouldn't spend less than £400 on a new one, don't know about second hand though.

Egbert Nobacon

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274 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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We had a similar quandry, so we bought an old crasher on the basis that if our daughters took to it and developed we could always upgrade it.

Best to buy locally rather than on ebay because quality is tricky to assess. Also don't underestimate the weight of some of these old uprights - they are not easy to move into a house

We ended up with an old music school piano - it weighs a ton, but sounds fantastic !

ukbob

16,277 posts

296 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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garyhun said:
As long as it has full size and properly weighted keys (ie a proper piano action) then that's all you need to worry about
Agreed. Digitals sound great, and the features will likely keep a youngster more interested (scales using different instruments etc), wont need tuning, and will provide more for your money as well as give your own ears peace if you want her to use headphones, or turn the volume down.

Unless she had a stuffy old "acoustic only" mindset, she will surely enjoy the digital more. Just make sure it has weighted wooden keys.

shadowninja

80,158 posts

313 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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I've had a brief go on a Yamaha P60.

"Want that one."

Davel

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Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Ta for that.

Electronic piano it is then....

dmitsi

3,583 posts

251 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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shadowninja said:
I've had a brief go on a Yamaha P60.

"Want that one."



The P60 is great, it has the same GH as their more expensive pianos. Good value.

dmitsi

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251 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Davel said:
Ta for that.

Electronic piano it is then....


If you're not sure what to get, I think Roland do monthly rentals.

Edited to apologise if that's advertising, I've not used them and can in no way vouch for the level of service, or quality of piano you will recieve....

>> Edited by dmitsi on Tuesday 31st January 15:28

lizzieh

187 posts

250 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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garyhun said:
As long as it has full size and properly weighted keys (ie a proper piano action) then that's all you need to worry about,

I would also second this. Hope your daughter enjoys the piano, it's a great instrument but it sure takes some practice!

benyeats

12,159 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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dmitsi said:
shadowninja said:
I've had a brief go on a Yamaha P60.

"Want that one."



The P60 is great, it has the same GH as their more expensive pianos. Good value.


I have a P60 and can confirm it is a really nice bit of kit. The keyboard has the most piano like feel at the price point (and 'vs some more expensive ones).

Ben

celticpilgrim

1,965 posts

274 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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you cannot beat the feal of a real piano. A colleague of mine has just let opne go for free, and paid half the delivery costs!!!

Apparently, if you look in the trade it, you can pick 'em up for pennies if you can collect.


If space is a premium, modern keyboards aren't bad, and you can adjust the sensitivity of the keys as well. Iamuse myself with a casio WK-3500. A BRILLIANT grand sound, shedloads of others, plus enough rythms to keep you going.

depends what you want....

Davel

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289 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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If you go down the 'real' piano route, how often do they have to be tuned and how much does each tune cost please?

At the moment, still fancy the electronic piano route - with headphones for the early stages!

alltorque

2,646 posts

300 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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I bought this one (without the gay stand). It is fantastic for learning on (hammer action keyboard), and isn't as expensive as the equivalent yamaha or korg. The sounds are extremely good, and there isn't a load of crap on there that you don't use.

www.piedog.com/musical_instruments/piano/digital_pianos/casio-px_110dk.htm?tf_7624

dmitsi

3,583 posts

251 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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Davel said:
If you go down the 'real' piano route, how often do they have to be tuned and how much does each tune cost please?

At the moment, still fancy the electronic piano route - with headphones for the early stages!


I would say twice a year for average use, just before winter sets in, and just as spring starts. It's the best time to do it as the humidity is changing a lot and it can swell the wood of the piano.

Edited to add, paying about £30-40 is reasonable.

>> Edited by dmitsi on Wednesday 1st February 11:05

shadowninja

80,158 posts

313 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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And make sure the tuner guy is blind.


Just bought the Korg SP300 in the end.

dmitsi

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251 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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shadowninja said:
And make sure the tuner guy is blind.


Just bought the Korg SP300 in the end.


Oh yeah, they have to be blind. If they turn up and they're not blind, the AAPT (accredited assoc. piano tuners) say you're within your legal right to take a pair of chopsticks and poke out their eyes.

MrsVodkaKid

136 posts

250 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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celticpilgrim said:
you cannot beat the feal of a real piano.


Absolutely true. I started playing on an old crappy piano that my folks bought for £25. We eventaully got a beautiful upright one which made my playing sound much nicer (honest!!)
I now have a Yamaha Clavinova - not quite the same as a 'real' piano, but never needs tuning, takes up less space and being able to use headphones is a bonus. Much easier to move than an upright, and you don't have to encounter the scary piano tuners!! You can also attatch them to your PC, allowing you to compose all sorts of stuff.


>> Edited by MrsVodkaKid on Wednesday 1st February 12:09