New Tuscan 2 convertable - thoughts please
Discussion
Hi
Myself and Mrs J (Griff owners) are considering a new T2 convertable. I would welcome the benefit of peoples experience/wisdom/thoughts on this. I would particularly like some thoughts from anyone who changed from another Tiv to the new T2.
Current thought is that we wont pay the extra for the 'S'
Cheers
Graham
Myself and Mrs J (Griff owners) are considering a new T2 convertable. I would welcome the benefit of peoples experience/wisdom/thoughts on this. I would particularly like some thoughts from anyone who changed from another Tiv to the new T2.
Current thought is that we wont pay the extra for the 'S'
Cheers
Graham
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=239234&f=5&h=0 They're a bit quiet aren't they - do you think they're trying to keep a secret?
Strong recommend for the Convertible - and you might find some "S upgrade at no extra" deals still kicking around. By far the best TVR to date.
The Tuscan Convertible has a real feeling of sophistication about it. Go and try one!
>> Edited by BossCerbera on Wednesday 1st February 08:12
On another forum I said:
Every time I have driven a later and later S6 car I'm left gobsmacked by the improvement over the last time. I spent today hooning around in a new Tuscan Vert. The engine is amazing. It's like nothing else - crisp, urgent and linear right the way up to the limiter. A special engine, no question. There's the evidence of "continuous improvement".
The Tuscan Convertible has a real feeling of sophistication about it. Go and try one!
>> Edited by BossCerbera on Wednesday 1st February 08:12
Agree with all of the above. Had a test drive of a Tam, thought okay, bit bumpy, test drove a T350, big improvement then drove a 'normal' vert, different again, so much smoother, and easier to drive, minimal tramlining....brilliant! Now got an S on order for March.....had to be done!
Highly recommended
Highly recommended
BossCerbera said:
The Tuscan Convertible has a real feeling of sophistication about it. Go and try one!
I followed one (not in my Tuscan) early the other morning (dark grey 55 plate) west along the embankment onto the M4.
It certainly did look exotic, but the side profile with the curved roof looks strange, like a bubble roof. Its a shame TVR took the usual cheap option of not designing an easier one piece folding roof. I think the targa version gives you the best of both worlds.
All IMHO.
cheers
Whitey
I agree with the comments about the drive. I haven't got mine yet, but the ones I've test driven seem to drive more smoothly than other TVRs. I think they have less grunt than the Sagaris, but to be fair the Tuscans I've driven for any amount of miles had the non-'S' 3.6 litre engine (they're all 4.0 litre now). And they've all got plenty of 'oomph', of course, just with a bit more silkiness and sophistication. (Having said that, the Sagaris is a beautiful drive, too, just a bit more hard-core in its set-up perhaps.)
The Tuscan looks stunning, I think. I've gone for the full convertible rather than the targa, because I like the idea of having a proper top-down car. Personally, I think the removable hard-top section helps keep the shape of the design, unlike some convertibles, which look odd and boxy compared to their coupe brethren.
So my advice would be to go for the Tuscan convertible, and now that all new Tuscans have the 4.0 litre engine, I'd probably skip the S pack unless you can get a deal on it. It's all down to personal preference, though, I suppose...
The Tuscan looks stunning, I think. I've gone for the full convertible rather than the targa, because I like the idea of having a proper top-down car. Personally, I think the removable hard-top section helps keep the shape of the design, unlike some convertibles, which look odd and boxy compared to their coupe brethren.
So my advice would be to go for the Tuscan convertible, and now that all new Tuscans have the 4.0 litre engine, I'd probably skip the S pack unless you can get a deal on it. It's all down to personal preference, though, I suppose...
jeffsy, purple peril,
I think you should both go for it!!! I've driven plenty of different TVRs over the past few years (S3, Griff, Chimaera, Tuscan S1), and I've never been hugely impressed - it always felt to me as if the cars were about to break (I guess not helped by some of the reliability stories). I've had an S1 Elise for the past years, so it's not as if I was used to anything solid, but the TVRs always felt like a liability! Also, the ride on the earlier cars felt as if they could (and would) spit you off the road at the slightest provocation...
Having tried a whole bunch of different cars over the past couple of years, to try and find a new way forward, I put down a deposit down on a new Lotus Europa last August - then I saw the pictures, and cancelled it and thought about an Exige. Just after Christmas I happened to test drive the Tuscan 2, and it's a huge step forward (IMHO) - it feel much more solid, a much nicer ride, and I love the curvy Griff-like looks of the conv. Also, I like the more conventional dash in the conv. So, having spent a few years looking at and test driving all sorts, it was actually an easy decision to get a Tuscan conv - and I got a good offer of the "S" pack, and it arrives in March!!!
I think you should do the same!!!
I think you should both go for it!!! I've driven plenty of different TVRs over the past few years (S3, Griff, Chimaera, Tuscan S1), and I've never been hugely impressed - it always felt to me as if the cars were about to break (I guess not helped by some of the reliability stories). I've had an S1 Elise for the past years, so it's not as if I was used to anything solid, but the TVRs always felt like a liability! Also, the ride on the earlier cars felt as if they could (and would) spit you off the road at the slightest provocation...
Having tried a whole bunch of different cars over the past couple of years, to try and find a new way forward, I put down a deposit down on a new Lotus Europa last August - then I saw the pictures, and cancelled it and thought about an Exige. Just after Christmas I happened to test drive the Tuscan 2, and it's a huge step forward (IMHO) - it feel much more solid, a much nicer ride, and I love the curvy Griff-like looks of the conv. Also, I like the more conventional dash in the conv. So, having spent a few years looking at and test driving all sorts, it was actually an easy decision to get a Tuscan conv - and I got a good offer of the "S" pack, and it arrives in March!!!
I think you should do the same!!!
Mid last I went to my local TVR dealer (Gatwick TVR - good deal and great after service) with the hope to purchase a Tuscan 1, test drove a 2002 Tuscan 1, very fast and exciting. Then the dealer advised me to test drive the new tuscan 2 (20k more expensive mind) - what a difference it was, the drive quality was fantastic - I purcahsed it there and then. The drive in my opinion was far superior than the Tuscan 1 and unlike the Tuscan 1 it felt like a car I could drive every day. Now I do drive my Tuscan every day and have put 10k on the clock in 6 months, its been very reliable (only a few little niggly faults) and would advise a potential purchaser to go for it - wish I'd waited for the convertible tho!
Hi Jeffsy,
as the PH name implies I also currently own a Griff - although only for another few weeks as the Tuscan S Convertible is due on 1st March. Hence can't give you any real world feedback on it yet, but can explain the thought process.
Finally saw the Convertible in the flesh at BNG last September and just knew that it was going to be the car that would ultimately replace the Griff. To my mind this is what the Tuscan should have looked like when it was first launched back in 2000, but that's down to personal preference.
The Griff is now 8 years old with 40k miles on it so I knew that if we were to keep it I'd have to budget spending some money on it in the next year or so. Took the opportunity to test drive the demonstrator at the local dealer just to help firm up the plans and see how much it was worth spending on the Griff, etc.
I was astonished at how much build quality had improved (the Griff was bought second hand but we had previously bought a new Chimaera) and how much lighter is was to drive. In the Griff you have to be firm with the controls and mean to do things, even with PAS. In the Convertible everything is so much smoother and lighter.
We left it there, but then went back a few weeks later to talk about Part-Ex values and the like. Also wanted Helen to drive it before we committed to anything. She loves the Griff but does find it a bit heavy and hence it takes her a while to adjust. However, she finds the Convertible much more like her Scooby to drive and came back beaming. A deal was done and we went for the S pack as the offer at the time meant there was no reason not to.
Reservations? Like everyone else I was concerned about the SP6, but the 3 year warranty certainly helped here - plus we've got enough friends with Tuscan/T350/Sagaris to know what their experiences have been. Still prefer the noise of a V8 and the SP6 just doesn't sound the same. The S comes with Sports Exhaust so we'll see what that is like but the likelihood is that some Carbon Cans will go on very quickly.
Simon
as the PH name implies I also currently own a Griff - although only for another few weeks as the Tuscan S Convertible is due on 1st March. Hence can't give you any real world feedback on it yet, but can explain the thought process.
Finally saw the Convertible in the flesh at BNG last September and just knew that it was going to be the car that would ultimately replace the Griff. To my mind this is what the Tuscan should have looked like when it was first launched back in 2000, but that's down to personal preference.
The Griff is now 8 years old with 40k miles on it so I knew that if we were to keep it I'd have to budget spending some money on it in the next year or so. Took the opportunity to test drive the demonstrator at the local dealer just to help firm up the plans and see how much it was worth spending on the Griff, etc.
I was astonished at how much build quality had improved (the Griff was bought second hand but we had previously bought a new Chimaera) and how much lighter is was to drive. In the Griff you have to be firm with the controls and mean to do things, even with PAS. In the Convertible everything is so much smoother and lighter.
We left it there, but then went back a few weeks later to talk about Part-Ex values and the like. Also wanted Helen to drive it before we committed to anything. She loves the Griff but does find it a bit heavy and hence it takes her a while to adjust. However, she finds the Convertible much more like her Scooby to drive and came back beaming. A deal was done and we went for the S pack as the offer at the time meant there was no reason not to.
Reservations? Like everyone else I was concerned about the SP6, but the 3 year warranty certainly helped here - plus we've got enough friends with Tuscan/T350/Sagaris to know what their experiences have been. Still prefer the noise of a V8 and the SP6 just doesn't sound the same. The S comes with Sports Exhaust so we'll see what that is like but the likelihood is that some Carbon Cans will go on very quickly.
Simon
As i said in an earlier thread i think the vert is a massive improvment over the MK1 I owned. I had a griff before that and i think the vert is its natural successor, with engine now sorted and a 3yr warranty go for it. as for an S depends how deep your pockets are. As they are all 4.0L now unless you track it and you really are that good do you really need another 30 HP
Lee
Lee
Thanks all
Re the 3 year warranty. How many miles would one drive in 3 years? lets say 30,000 -40,000 miles max in real terms obviously depending on usage. Does anybody have any thoughts on whether any engine issues wuld become known within that time or are they more prevalent later? NB I am not an SP6 'knocker'!!
Cheers
Re the 3 year warranty. How many miles would one drive in 3 years? lets say 30,000 -40,000 miles max in real terms obviously depending on usage. Does anybody have any thoughts on whether any engine issues wuld become known within that time or are they more prevalent later? NB I am not an SP6 'knocker'!!
Cheers
I agree that the Tuscan II and the Sagaris are both huge leaps forward in terms of handling and quality.
My Cerbera was always petrifying to drive, because it felt so unpredictable, skittish and flimsy, but the new generation TVRs are just phenomenal (and the journos seem to agree).
Personally, I'm not concerned about the reliability rumours, for several reasons: I've driven tens of thousands of miles in TVRs without any serious issues; there are plenty of TVRs out there that have done tens of thousands of miles without any issues; TVR now offers a 36,000 mile/three-year warranty, so it doesn't matter if something goes wrong during a typical first ownership; and because most people who speak out are people who've had problems, while happy punters generally have nothing much to say, this proliferates the cars' notoriety without a balanced argument - so it's purely anecdotal, not evidential.
Like others above, I'd definitely say "go for it" - the new TVRs are simply stunning!
My Cerbera was always petrifying to drive, because it felt so unpredictable, skittish and flimsy, but the new generation TVRs are just phenomenal (and the journos seem to agree).
Personally, I'm not concerned about the reliability rumours, for several reasons: I've driven tens of thousands of miles in TVRs without any serious issues; there are plenty of TVRs out there that have done tens of thousands of miles without any issues; TVR now offers a 36,000 mile/three-year warranty, so it doesn't matter if something goes wrong during a typical first ownership; and because most people who speak out are people who've had problems, while happy punters generally have nothing much to say, this proliferates the cars' notoriety without a balanced argument - so it's purely anecdotal, not evidential.
Like others above, I'd definitely say "go for it" - the new TVRs are simply stunning!
The tuscan convertible is a vast improvement on the other tuscans. Ive had mine now since just before xmas and it is fantastic, ride is much better, breaks are better and it feels so much more screwed together than the mk1 i had. Also putting stainless steel carbon cans on it helps aswell they sound fantastic!! id recommend them to anyone well worth the money!!
>> Edited by wuggsy on Thursday 2nd February 15:04
>> Edited by wuggsy on Thursday 2nd February 15:04
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