How do you say yours..?
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Was driving home earlier (Astra Diesel Van!) and started wondering about correct pronunciation of model types...
Is it 111R as in "one, eleven ar" or "One, one, one ar"? - or "es" come to that..?
If you wanna call the cops, it's "nine, one one", but if you're talking Porsche, then it's "Nine eleven"
Alfa say "One, five six" or "One, four seven" and not "one fifty-six" or "One forty-seven"
Just a thought...
(...cripes, I gotta get out more!)
Was driving home earlier (Astra Diesel Van!) and started wondering about correct pronunciation of model types...
Is it 111R as in "one, eleven ar" or "One, one, one ar"? - or "es" come to that..?
If you wanna call the cops, it's "nine, one one", but if you're talking Porsche, then it's "Nine eleven"
Alfa say "One, five six" or "One, four seven" and not "one fifty-six" or "One forty-seven"
Just a thought...
(...cripes, I gotta get out more!)
My thoughts are...160S = 160hp then you can say; onehundredsixty S because of the hp
135 = 135hp then you can say; onehundredthirtyfive
111R = one eleven R
just as you say 240R = two fourty R
and 240 Cup= Cup two fourty
so when the number has to do with the HP figure in the name, you can call it by that numbers, thats make's sense...only the 240 you name it often like a ferrari 360...
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Wednesday 1st February 08:02
135 = 135hp then you can say; onehundredthirtyfive
111R = one eleven R
just as you say 240R = two fourty R
and 240 Cup= Cup two fourty
so when the number has to do with the HP figure in the name, you can call it by that numbers, thats make's sense...only the 240 you name it often like a ferrari 360...
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Wednesday 1st February 08:02
GTRene said:
My thoughts are...160S = 160hp
I beleive a 160S has 15x bhp, not 160. That's certainly true of a B&C 160 conversion; it's called 160 because it's a bigger number than 150, not because of the amount of horsepower it has.
(I say this from memory that my Lotus-engine-building-mate told me on Sunday morning!)
Humm... I agree, it doesn't really matter of course... or does it?
Rene, I know where you're coming from with the HP reference, but that falls down for say BMW 320 or "three, twenty". I'm no Beemer lover, but I think that's as in 3 series and 2 litre engine..? (Although 20 horse power is probably about right in that instance!
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As for the defunct deaaler saying "triple one" Rick... Maybe that was his undoing..?!?!
Does it come down to the last two digits being writable / sayable as single word numerals? i.e. "Ninety" instead of "Nine, Oh"? Like keeping it as "Three, Five" instead of double- barrelled "Thirty-Five"?
That's probably it!
I dunno, like I said just a thought. It does generate some interesting theories though!
Cheers!
Rene, I know where you're coming from with the HP reference, but that falls down for say BMW 320 or "three, twenty". I'm no Beemer lover, but I think that's as in 3 series and 2 litre engine..? (Although 20 horse power is probably about right in that instance!
) As for the defunct deaaler saying "triple one" Rick... Maybe that was his undoing..?!?!
Does it come down to the last two digits being writable / sayable as single word numerals? i.e. "Ninety" instead of "Nine, Oh"? Like keeping it as "Three, Five" instead of double- barrelled "Thirty-Five"?
That's probably it!
I dunno, like I said just a thought. It does generate some interesting theories though!
Cheers!
"rixge said:
One doesn't Got told by a now defunct dealer that it was called a triple one S, AND NOT A ONE ELEVEN, that told me !
Well, on my Elise video, Tony Shute (PM) and Richard Rackham (head engineer) say "111" all the way through. That's good enough for me. The F111 was always said "F - one-eleven", and I think that sets a precedence for most of us. Well, those into planes anyway!
To be honest, I think there's a general consensus in this country about how to say things. You get this with roads - the A160 is the "A one-sixty", the A135 is the "A one-three-five", and the A33 is the "A-thirty-three". 95% of people follow these pronunciations. The A111 would be the "A one-eleven" - no question. There is a distinction with American English, because things work differently over the pond. The Americans would say "one-thirty-five" - indeed they seem to have a general tendancy to be more verbose and technical with explanations and descriptions.
It's all about number of syllables. People generally say whichever is shorter and easier to say. One-sixty is easier than saying one-hundered-and-sixty.
one eleven, rolls off the tongue easier than one-one-one.
On a related note who though up WWW as an acronym? its far easier to say world wide web than double-yoo,double-yoo,double-yoo.
one eleven, rolls off the tongue easier than one-one-one.
On a related note who though up WWW as an acronym? its far easier to say world wide web than double-yoo,double-yoo,double-yoo.
one-one-one has less syllables than "one-eleven" though
You're right, it is about what rolls of the tongue more easily. As to why the Americans say things differently I don't know. It could be their accent, or it could just be a cultural thing. Whatever, 90% of the population of a country seem to settle into a pattern. I've never heard anyone say "one-one-one-S" I've heard some non "car people" read it out and then stop halfway through and change to "one-eleven" - that's interesting
My ex always used to say "A three three" instead of "A33". I found this very confusing when she was directing me somewhere! The M20 was the "M two zero"
You're right, it is about what rolls of the tongue more easily. As to why the Americans say things differently I don't know. It could be their accent, or it could just be a cultural thing. Whatever, 90% of the population of a country seem to settle into a pattern. I've never heard anyone say "one-one-one-S"
I've heard some non "car people" read it out and then stop halfway through and change to "one-eleven" - that's interesting My ex always used to say "A three three" instead of "A33". I found this very confusing when she was directing me somewhere! The M20 was the "M two zero"
I prefer 'wow, cool car mate'. Usually from some little kid.
But as we all know, kids say it how it is!
And obviously his mate says 'it's a Lo us wicked'
I am not familiar with this model variant but believe it could do well!
D4V KC
>> Edited by D4V KC on Wednesday 1st February 12:52
But as we all know, kids say it how it is!
And obviously his mate says 'it's a Lo us wicked'
I am not familiar with this model variant but believe it could do well!
D4V KC >> Edited by D4V KC on Wednesday 1st February 12:52
IIRC the Lotus official terminology is one-eleven blah blah. Or one, three, five etc.
As for the Sport 160, it's actually 160PS not BHP, when you do the dealer approved mod of removing the 2nd airbox and fitting the recommended exhaust you should get around 158bhp.
Mine was rolling roaded a year ago and achieved that. Seeing as the love-affair is back on we may well be investigating ways of improving that at some point in the not too distant future.
As for the Sport 160, it's actually 160PS not BHP, when you do the dealer approved mod of removing the 2nd airbox and fitting the recommended exhaust you should get around 158bhp.
Mine was rolling roaded a year ago and achieved that. Seeing as the love-affair is back on we may well be investigating ways of improving that at some point in the not too distant future.
RobM77 said:
Aah but you'll also note that on the first Elise prototype, early photographs of it before it got its mechanicals put in showed it parked outside Hethel as a rolling body/chassis with the script "one eleven" written just like that where the "Elise" badge sits today.
TonyHetherington said:
My thoughts are...160S = 160hp
I beleive a 160S has 15x bhp, not 160. That's certainly true of a B&C 160 conversion; it's called 160 because it's a bigger number than 150, not because of the amount of horsepower it has.
(I say this from memory that my Lotus-engine-building-mate told me on Sunday morning!)
I now it has not excact 160hp but around that and I believe thats why they called it 160? thats also easy to say because of all different uses in countries in the Netherlands we use PK, in Germany PS, in the GB HP and in the USA sea hp or din hp?? and all have different outcomes in figure, but its around the 160 level, its sporty, its easy to say, and thats why the name it "one sixty" (just like ferrari's call 360 three sixthy) thats what I ment, but always difficult to translate with my poor English
GTRene
thanks..and yep, the 135 is a bit more difficult to speak out smooth? because of the 3 words to speak out... "one thirty" is easy to say, but "one thirty five" you have to use 3 words...hm...give it 5 HP PS or PK more and its easy too one fourty
sounds also a bit faster to me...
GTRene
one fourty sounds also a bit faster to me...
GTRene
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