997S suspension options
Discussion
As a porsche newbie i am currently mulling over the spec for a new 997S .
Reading various forums there seems to be quite a bit of support for the -20 /LSD suspension option in lieu of the PASM set up . This seems to be countered by dealer comments.
I have not been able to find a -20 demonstrator hence the following question.
I will only use the car on the road ( i have an R400 Caterham for the track) currently drive a standard E46 M3 on 18inch wheels which i find acceptable in terms of ride comfort ( although the wife complains ..... but dont they all ) .
Can someone with direct relevant experience ( nothing based on heresay please ) try and put into words the differences in , steering feel,primary and secondary ride quality,handling , " bobbing nose " , confidence etc between PASM ( in both its settings ) and the -20 option.
Thanks in advance
Reading various forums there seems to be quite a bit of support for the -20 /LSD suspension option in lieu of the PASM set up . This seems to be countered by dealer comments.
I have not been able to find a -20 demonstrator hence the following question.
I will only use the car on the road ( i have an R400 Caterham for the track) currently drive a standard E46 M3 on 18inch wheels which i find acceptable in terms of ride comfort ( although the wife complains ..... but dont they all ) .
Can someone with direct relevant experience ( nothing based on heresay please ) try and put into words the differences in , steering feel,primary and secondary ride quality,handling , " bobbing nose " , confidence etc between PASM ( in both its settings ) and the -20 option.
Thanks in advance
I had an E46 M3 and now a Carrera S -20mm and they ride pretty much the same.
The PASM cars either feel too soft in comfort mode or ridiculously hard in sport mode. This means in Sport mode on a bumpy road as your speed increases the front of the car will 'bobble' on corners and leave you feeling far less confident of it staying on the road than a -20mm driver. The other problem with the PASM is it gets caught out if the road surface undulates too much or you change direction very quickly. The dampers over compensate as the computers get confused over which way the car is heading.
So even for road use I would still always have the -20mm over the PASM and if you ever take it on track its no contest as the LSD of the -20mm makes everything so much more fun.
Oh and the dealers always go on about the -20mm being a bad option simply because none of them have tried it, so they refer back in their small minds to the option on the 996 which was way too stiff and put 2+2 together and cock it up as usual.
The first time I took a technician out in mine he was gobsmacked at how much better my car rode the bumpy country lanes of their private test track as opposed to his experience of the PASM cars.
The PASM cars either feel too soft in comfort mode or ridiculously hard in sport mode. This means in Sport mode on a bumpy road as your speed increases the front of the car will 'bobble' on corners and leave you feeling far less confident of it staying on the road than a -20mm driver. The other problem with the PASM is it gets caught out if the road surface undulates too much or you change direction very quickly. The dampers over compensate as the computers get confused over which way the car is heading.
So even for road use I would still always have the -20mm over the PASM and if you ever take it on track its no contest as the LSD of the -20mm makes everything so much more fun.
Oh and the dealers always go on about the -20mm being a bad option simply because none of them have tried it, so they refer back in their small minds to the option on the 996 which was way too stiff and put 2+2 together and cock it up as usual.
The first time I took a technician out in mine he was gobsmacked at how much better my car rode the bumpy country lanes of their private test track as opposed to his experience of the PASM cars.
whoami said:
jjr1 said:
Before I forget the -20mm cars also look far better and not like Cayennes. What is it with recent Porsches riding so damn high? (Cayman included)
Very remiss of you not to point that out the first time (for the 647th time)
So I am negligent or careless for pointing out a physical fact.
Get a life you sad
.jjr1 said:
whoami said:
jjr1 said:
Before I forget the -20mm cars also look far better and not like Cayennes. What is it with recent Porsches riding so damn high? (Cayman included)
Very remiss of you not to point that out the first time (for the 647th time)
So I am negligent or careless for pointing out a physical fact.
Get a life you sad.
Temper temper.
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