SEAT Cupra Championship.
Discussion
Hi my names ben king and im investigating the seat cupra championship for a project at university.
i was wondering if there was anyone with any background in the series or knows some one that has had some dealings with the series , ranging from sponsorship to team owership and driving.
it would be a great help to me because i need to find out information such as the cost of insurance and how much drivers get paid etc and how they find sponsorship.
regards
Ben King
i was wondering if there was anyone with any background in the series or knows some one that has had some dealings with the series , ranging from sponsorship to team owership and driving.
it would be a great help to me because i need to find out information such as the cost of insurance and how much drivers get paid etc and how they find sponsorship.
regards
Ben King
Ignoring start money (which is basically just a rebate on the entry fee) Drivers get paid nothing to race, unless:
a: they manage to secure a very big sponsorship deal that covers their racing and their living (very rare)
b: they have consistent success and are being paid by a factory team to drive (very rare)
Prize money is pittence unless you win a well suported high-profile championship.
For anything bigger than low-budget club racing, you need serious sponsorship. You need to identify how to give a sponsor a better deal for their money than they would get from straight advertising. It's VERY tough, even if you know the "tricks".
You should try to attract up to 100K to be competitive in Cupras whilst having a salary.
The best book to buy is "Sponsorship and the world of Motor Racing", by Guy Edwards, Hazleton Publishing. It's rare, as it was a limited publication in 1992, selling for £100 back then - there is one on Amazon at the moment for £550. It's worth the money as a racing enthusiast's book alone, and EXTREMELY useful for understanding what makes potential sponsors tick.
Most of all, enjoy it - that's why we do it! Best of luck!
a: they manage to secure a very big sponsorship deal that covers their racing and their living (very rare)
b: they have consistent success and are being paid by a factory team to drive (very rare)
Prize money is pittence unless you win a well suported high-profile championship.
For anything bigger than low-budget club racing, you need serious sponsorship. You need to identify how to give a sponsor a better deal for their money than they would get from straight advertising. It's VERY tough, even if you know the "tricks".
You should try to attract up to 100K to be competitive in Cupras whilst having a salary.
The best book to buy is "Sponsorship and the world of Motor Racing", by Guy Edwards, Hazleton Publishing. It's rare, as it was a limited publication in 1992, selling for £100 back then - there is one on Amazon at the moment for £550. It's worth the money as a racing enthusiast's book alone, and EXTREMELY useful for understanding what makes potential sponsors tick.
Most of all, enjoy it - that's why we do it! Best of luck!
Just realised you're only doing a project on it, not intending to race!
This may be useful:
www.seatsportuk.co.uk
This may be useful:
www.seatsportuk.co.uk
By coincidence I was talking to last year's Cupra champion at Donington a few weeks ago. His name was Tom, sorry I don't know his last name! To run a car in his team is about £100k for the season, and in his case, having won the championship, his prize was £100k. He is not allowed to race in this year's UK championship, so he is doing the Spanish SCC instead. These are with the new Cupra's, which will be on the UK grid in 2007.
SEAT used to have a deal whereby the SCC winner got a drive in the following year's BTCC team, which they are no longer running. In the 'old' days it was probably a way to make a few quid, assuming the driver won the championship (and the £100k) and the subsequent drive for SEAT in the BTCC. But that doesn't take into account the amount of money one has to spend to get to the level where you are winning SCC races!
There are no professional drivers in SCC, and in fact there were only a couple of 'professional' drivers in last years BTCC - Muller, Plato. Everyone else was bringing money to the teams, the other VXR drivers brought sponsorship, as did the other SEAT and Halfords drivers.
As for the Guy Edwards book, £550 is about right for a copy. Mine is tucked away in a very special place, and comes out only when the kids aren't around to damage it. Edwards brought over $200 million into motor racing, of which he personally took a 10% cut as an agent. He now lives the life of Riley in Monaco!!!
SEAT used to have a deal whereby the SCC winner got a drive in the following year's BTCC team, which they are no longer running. In the 'old' days it was probably a way to make a few quid, assuming the driver won the championship (and the £100k) and the subsequent drive for SEAT in the BTCC. But that doesn't take into account the amount of money one has to spend to get to the level where you are winning SCC races!
There are no professional drivers in SCC, and in fact there were only a couple of 'professional' drivers in last years BTCC - Muller, Plato. Everyone else was bringing money to the teams, the other VXR drivers brought sponsorship, as did the other SEAT and Halfords drivers.
As for the Guy Edwards book, £550 is about right for a copy. Mine is tucked away in a very special place, and comes out only when the kids aren't around to damage it. Edwards brought over $200 million into motor racing, of which he personally took a 10% cut as an agent. He now lives the life of Riley in Monaco!!!
Ben king said:
so if i was wanting a race drive in SCCi would have to have a good amount of money around 100K maybe <= (guess) or a good sponsorship deal, what would i need in terms of insurance and licences?
Ben
I think the license is National B (i.e the basic licence you get when you pass your ARDS test), but double-check that. I have seen a few SCC with the novice cross on the back, but that may be a red-herring so that the driver behind gives the driver in front some extra leeway!
If you're on a hire-drive basis then you'll probably need to put down a £10k deposit and expect to run at about £8k per race. I have only based these figures on the average spend, so best to check it directly with the championship co-ordinator. But there's good TV coverage, which will be the big appeal to sponsors, there are plenty of people spending similar amounts on championships with no coverage. As an example, in the Alfa Champs, where I did a few races last year, there was a rumour that one guy had put out over £120k into his car. That's just plain silly!!!
go to www.seatcupra.net loads of info.
Been to a few of the race days, pretty good.
Been to a few of the race days, pretty good.
Ben king said:
120K LOL thats nuts! does anyone knw how i could get hold of a MSA yearbook 2005?
Go to www.msauk.org you can buy one from there, about £20 (2006 edition). You could've had my old one but someone else got in before you.
[url]www.brakelate.com/pages/index.html[/url]
Click Peoples Cupra
This link is a chap called Richard Kingsnorth who is hoping to compete in the Cupra Cup in 2006
Click Peoples Cupra
This link is a chap called Richard Kingsnorth who is hoping to compete in the Cupra Cup in 2006
Ben king said:
120K LOL thats nuts! does anyone knw how i could get hold of a MSA yearbook 2005?
In the Hight of the Tuscan challenge ( when it was a step into GT's) there were rumors of 100-150k per season from the front runners !!!! and thats a few years ago!!
The tyre budget on cupras alone is about 800-1k per meeting !! cos there buggered after 20-30 laps.. I know as i bought some 2nd hand !!! hard as nails...
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