Some real world teachings from Bill Gates ?
Some real world teachings from Bill Gates ?
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MartinD

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2,138 posts

258 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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As with any of these type of emails , who knows if the report is true or not , but it sure does make sense
from an email said:

>
> Smile more, Worry less!
> Love him or hate him, Bill Gates sure hits the nail on the head with
> this! To anyone with kids of any age, here's some advice.
> Bill Gates recently gave a speech at a High School about 11 things
> they did not and will not learn in school. He talks about how feel-
> good, politically correct teachings created a generation of kids with
> no concept of reality and how this concept set them up for failure in
> the real world
>
>
> Rule 1: Life is not fair - get used to it!
>
> Rule 2: The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will
> expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about
> yourself.
>
> Rule 3: You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school.
> You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.
>
> Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.
>
> Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your
> Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping: they called it
> opportunity.
>
> Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine
> about your mistakes, learn from them.
>
> Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they
> are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your
> clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you thought you
> were. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your
> parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.
>
> Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but
> life HAS NOT. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and
> they'll give you as MANY TIMES as you want to get the right answer.
> This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.
>
> Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off
> and very few employers are interested in helping you FIND YOURSELF.
> Do that on your own time.
>
> Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually
> have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.
>
> Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
>
> If you agree, pass it on.
> If you can read this - Thank a teacher!
> If you are reading it in English -Thank a soldier!!

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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or in Bill Gates' case, rather than work hard developing a genuinely creative idea just steal one.

_DeeJay_

5,057 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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B17NNS said:
or in Bill Gates' case, rather than work hard developing a genuinely creative idea just steal one.


I refer you to rule #1

Love him or hate him, he's still a great business man. If the 'idea' was Windows, then he copied what was given to Apple (as it was deemed worthless). Blame Mr Jobs for trusting the wrong people, and not sorting out decent contracts with his suppliers.

If the idea was DOS, then wasn't that just a very shewd licensing deal and a lot of innovation?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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Personally I would much rather go through life being a trusting Steve than a dishonest Bill.

Yugguy

10,728 posts

266 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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Apple's failing was keeping all their hardware stuff proprietary thereby massively limiting any potential software base, whereas Windows could run on any ibm compatible pc.

Carrera2

8,352 posts

263 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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B17NNS said:
or in Bill Gates' case, rather than work hard developing a genuinely creative idea just steal one.


He has achieved a few things since then though I think.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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Erm the lineage of Windows has little to do with his fortune.

That in the main comes from the licensing deal that states that if you sell a PC you HAVE to ship an MS operating system with it, previously MS-DOS now Windows of course.

Gates alone came up with that concept, he saw that the value was in software not hardware, its probably the most significant business deal ever...

The fact that his engineers pinched Xerox's idea via Apple is neither here nor there really.

Interestingly MS owns a core component of the Apple OS so whatever you buy, Bill gets a cut...

_DeeJay_

5,057 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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B17NNS said:
Personally I would much rather go through life being a trusting Steve than a dishonest Bill.


Hmmm, good job Steve Jobs is a flawless character with a great reputation then (I can't believe I'm defending Bill Gates)

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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Carrera2 said:
He has achieved a few things since then though I think.

Very true. He does have the monopoly on shit software.

Carrera2

8,352 posts

263 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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B17NNS said:
Carrera2 said:
He has achieved a few things since then though I think.

Very true. He does have the monopoly on shit software.


A role I'd happily take.

_DeeJay_

5,057 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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B17NNS said:
Carrera2 said:
He has achieved a few things since then though I think.

Very true. He does have the monopoly on shit software.


Give him a break, one dodgy deal buying some of 'that Apple rubbish' and suddenly all of his software is sh*t.....

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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_DeeJay_ said:
Give him a break


I admire Gates' philanthropic endeavours.

The stamp collecting world is a better place because of his involvement.

r988

7,501 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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B17NNS said:
or in Bill Gates' case, rather than work hard developing a genuinely creative idea just steal one.


I thought he bought it off his neighbour, who was the idiot there?

and if windows is so crap and apple so good how come everyone still uses windows? (this is a geniune question not some inflammatory comment btw)

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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B17NNS said:
Carrera2 said:
He has achieved a few things since then though I think.

Very true. He does have the monopoly on shit software.




Why the chip?

Microsoft software is ,without doubt, some of the finest stuff in the world.

The reason we find bugs in it is the incredible complexity. I believe that the current "Windows" operating system represents one of mankind's greatest endeavours - if you count the phenomenal number of manhours that have gone into it.

If it was so easy to do - why aren't there competitors bringing out fantastic new operating systems by the bucketload?. Linux probably represents Windows biggest competitor and that because of the vast number of (free!) manhours that have gone into it.

Whilst one should not confuse effort with quality or capability in software there is a strong correlation.

Another reason that MS stuff suffers "bugs" is that no two PCs are the same. The combination of hardware and software is unique. Given the level of control MS can exert over their end-deployment platform (i.e. NONE) its amazing anything works at all!

I, for one, am constantly amazed and impressed at Gates' firm's achievements.

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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_DeeJay_ said:
B17NNS said:
Carrera2 said:
He has achieved a few things since then though I think.

Very true. He does have the monopoly on shit software.


Give him a break, one dodgy deal buying some of 'that Apple rubbish' and suddenly all of his software is sh*t.....


Not to mention one engineer driven to suicide : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kildall

greg_D

6,542 posts

277 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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scorp said:
_DeeJay_ said:
B17NNS said:
Carrera2 said:
He has achieved a few things since then though I think.

Very true. He does have the monopoly on shit software.


Give him a break, one dodgy deal buying some of 'that Apple rubbish' and suddenly all of his software is sh*t.....


Not to mention one engineer driven to suicide : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kildall


am i missing somehing here, the link talks of him falling off a barstool (probably pissed) and dying of internal bleeding 3 days later, hardly suiside.......

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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Avoiding the OS-war, I'll just point out that this list isn't Bills:

[url]www.snopes.com/language/document/liferule.htm[/url]


>>edited 'cos I can't spell

>> Edited by grumbledoak on Tuesday 7th February 12:01

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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greg_D said:
am i missing somehing here, the link talks of him falling off a barstool (probably pissed) and dying of internal bleeding 3 days later, hardly suiside.......

Probably not the best link, it is a well known rumour however. I would of thought inventing CP/M and having it stolen and seeing some other guy then go on to be a multibillionaire as a result would be depressing.

tinman0

18,231 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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Don said:
Microsoft software is ,without doubt, some of the finest stuff in the world.

The reason we find bugs in it is the incredible complexity. I believe that the current "Windows" operating system represents one of mankind's greatest endeavours - if you count the phenomenal number of manhours that have gone into it.


MS software is certainly not the finest - hence the number of errors it generates.

iirc a commercial airliner has more lines of code than windows yet you don't see them crashing all over the place.

i have servers that run for years at a time, we checked one last week which is closing on its 4th year of uptime. all our windows boxes manage a fraction of that uptime.

tinman0

18,231 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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r988 said:
and if windows is so crap and apple so good how come everyone still uses windows? (this is a geniune question not some inflammatory comment btw)


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