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After reading the threads on here about GTL I thought I would download the demo and give it a try.
The only track I have is Dijon. Using the lotus I did manage a lap time of about 1.40, which isnt too bad.
Problem is that I find it almost impossible to do a lap without crashing.
The car begins a slight slide and no matter what I do I very rarely catch it, I just slowly spin around untill im off the track
Watching the computer players they can get quite sideways and not spin.
No way on earth I can do a race without crashing off.
Using the other (more powerfull) cars is no better, although the E type is no worse than the lotus.
Im using a cheapo logitech wheel and pedals, I think they are set up ok.
I am playing on pro difficulty as the car felt like it was trying to drive itself on amateur. I can sometimes overtake the pro cars... only to crash off a few corners later.
Anyway, has anybody got any tips or advice?
The only track I have is Dijon. Using the lotus I did manage a lap time of about 1.40, which isnt too bad.
Problem is that I find it almost impossible to do a lap without crashing.
The car begins a slight slide and no matter what I do I very rarely catch it, I just slowly spin around untill im off the track
Watching the computer players they can get quite sideways and not spin.
No way on earth I can do a race without crashing off.
Using the other (more powerfull) cars is no better, although the E type is no worse than the lotus.
Im using a cheapo logitech wheel and pedals, I think they are set up ok.
I am playing on pro difficulty as the car felt like it was trying to drive itself on amateur. I can sometimes overtake the pro cars... only to crash off a few corners later.
Anyway, has anybody got any tips or advice?
Click it down onto Novice and turn off all aids except clutch, damage (for better faffing about) and stability control. SC will help you in controlling the car but I suspect you might be a little off on your technique or just need more practice. These handle like old cars so need to be driven like one. Then you can turn SC off when you get used to it.
Are you braking as you are turning in?
Are you on the throttle in the corner or off?
Setup also helps, try to move the setup slider more to understeer and check, your steering ratio might also need changing to match your steering wheel speed. I generally use 13-14.5 on mine.
Coming off the throttle in a corner will kick the back end out, too much throttle will give you more understeer, when yo get adept at this you can control the cars attitude in the corners using the throttle. I use this a lot to straighten my exit line so I can be on the throttle earlier, anyone in front of me going on the long back straight at Anderstorp will know what I mean as I went past them
Oh and.....practice.
>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Wednesday 8th February 17:04
Are you braking as you are turning in?
Are you on the throttle in the corner or off?
Setup also helps, try to move the setup slider more to understeer and check, your steering ratio might also need changing to match your steering wheel speed. I generally use 13-14.5 on mine.
Coming off the throttle in a corner will kick the back end out, too much throttle will give you more understeer, when yo get adept at this you can control the cars attitude in the corners using the throttle. I use this a lot to straighten my exit line so I can be on the throttle earlier, anyone in front of me going on the long back straight at Anderstorp will know what I mean as I went past them
Oh and.....practice.
>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Wednesday 8th February 17:04
Yeah put all the aids on and knock them off one by one as you get more confident.
The trick is with these old cars is to be smooth with all your inputs, trying not to give any on/off signals. Do all your braking in a straight line, be steady on the gas into the corner, and gradually ease on the gas as you come out the corner - unwinding the lock as you go, moving the car to the outer edge of the track to maximize your cars speed. Slow in/Fast Out is the key
If you get the full version i'm sure we can take you on a lap and you can follow/view on the monitor - and observe the braking points and turn-in's etc of the tracks if you are still having trouble
Steve
>> Edited by lockstock2sb on Wednesday 8th February 17:12
The trick is with these old cars is to be smooth with all your inputs, trying not to give any on/off signals. Do all your braking in a straight line, be steady on the gas into the corner, and gradually ease on the gas as you come out the corner - unwinding the lock as you go, moving the car to the outer edge of the track to maximize your cars speed. Slow in/Fast Out is the key
If you get the full version i'm sure we can take you on a lap and you can follow/view on the monitor - and observe the braking points and turn-in's etc of the tracks if you are still having trouble
Steve
>> Edited by lockstock2sb on Wednesday 8th February 17:12
I think I might have figured some of it out.
Increased the deadzone setting on my pedals and im not spinning as easily as before.
I think with 0 deadzone I was running with the brake pedal pressed all the time
hrottle
Still cant drive that lotus propperly.. its too light and twitchy.
But tried again with the E-type and got my time down to 1.38 for dijon, and I did about 4 laps without a major accident (a few sideways moments, but much better than before) But it feels like I can go allot faster than this once I work out the braking points propperly.
I think most of my problems are with my wheel setup, so ill carry on tweaking it for a bit. Do yu guys keep force feedback on or off, as I have it off at the moment.
I have tried with SC enabled and im faster, but it feels like im not in full control of the car. I think ill leave it off and keep practicing
Thankyou for the quick replies.
Increased the deadzone setting on my pedals and im not spinning as easily as before.
I think with 0 deadzone I was running with the brake pedal pressed all the time
hrottle
Still cant drive that lotus propperly.. its too light and twitchy.
But tried again with the E-type and got my time down to 1.38 for dijon, and I did about 4 laps without a major accident (a few sideways moments, but much better than before) But it feels like I can go allot faster than this once I work out the braking points propperly.
I think most of my problems are with my wheel setup, so ill carry on tweaking it for a bit. Do yu guys keep force feedback on or off, as I have it off at the moment.
I have tried with SC enabled and im faster, but it feels like im not in full control of the car. I think ill leave it off and keep practicing
Thankyou for the quick replies.
Ive allready moved the brake ballance furthrer forwards.
Trying to mess with gear ratio and suspention at the moment.
I used to play GP3/GP4 quite allot so ive got some idea about what the options do, compared to GP4 its quite simple :P
This game seems to rely so much more on throttle control than GP4 did, I think my major problme is my right foot at the moment.
Ive just ordered the full game from play, although I dont think ill be fit for any sort of a race till ive got some practice in (unless you guys want a laugh)
Trying to mess with gear ratio and suspention at the moment.
I used to play GP3/GP4 quite allot so ive got some idea about what the options do, compared to GP4 its quite simple :P
This game seems to rely so much more on throttle control than GP4 did, I think my major problme is my right foot at the moment.
Ive just ordered the full game from play, although I dont think ill be fit for any sort of a race till ive got some practice in (unless you guys want a laugh)
Holst said:
I think my major problme is my right foot at the moment.
You will go far with GTL
join the right foot maseef and ignore the smoothie brigade 
Can't be much help on your problems realy as I'm still trying to sort them myself
but......... Welcome aboard Holst
Dijon here we come
Ive been playing again tonight.
Still cant manage anyhting quicker than a 1.37
But I can do 5 or so laps without crashing at that pace, I can beat the other cars on amateur and im almost beating them on semi-pro now.
Still loads loads slower than that laps you guys are posting on the other thread
But ill keep on trying, this game is certainly a challenge.
Still cant manage anyhting quicker than a 1.37
But I can do 5 or so laps without crashing at that pace, I can beat the other cars on amateur and im almost beating them on semi-pro now.
Still loads loads slower than that laps you guys are posting on the other thread
But ill keep on trying, this game is certainly a challenge.
Holst, we are posting our absolute best times, which in my case are a few seconds quicker than my safe race pace.
If you can do 15 laps of 1:38s consecutively I predict you'll be close to the podium. You only need one mistake to lose about 20 seconds (sometimes more) or even be out of the race.
Ignore Ian and FWDs times tho - they are just showoffs
If you can do 15 laps of 1:38s consecutively I predict you'll be close to the podium. You only need one mistake to lose about 20 seconds (sometimes more) or even be out of the race.
Ignore Ian and FWDs times tho - they are just showoffs
Im still crashing pretty often.
Most difficult thing is when I get wheelspin out of the tight corners.
I lift off but the power wont come off smooth. My throttle is more like a switch.
This usually makes me spin due to lifting off too fast.
Or I leave my foot planted and swerve about 5 or 6 times before having an even bigger accident when I finally spin out
Most difficult thing is when I get wheelspin out of the tight corners.
I lift off but the power wont come off smooth. My throttle is more like a switch.
This usually makes me spin due to lifting off too fast.
Or I leave my foot planted and swerve about 5 or 6 times before having an even bigger accident when I finally spin out
Holst said:
Im still crashing pretty often.
Most difficult thing is when I get wheelspin out of the tight corners.
I lift off but the power wont come off smooth. My throttle is more like a switch.
This usually makes me spin due to lifting off too fast.
Or I leave my foot planted and swerve about 5 or 6 times before having an even bigger accident when I finally spin out
Holst, Try not to lift entirely, just lift to half throttle, otherwise you are effectivly puting on the handbrake as the engine is trying to lock the wheels, this might help.
consistant 1.37s will make you competitive for sure
Im getting a bit better at correcting the slides, I still manage to snatch it and spin off in the opposite direction sometimes, not winding the opposite lock off fast enough.
I cant go any faster than slow 1.37's with the E-type.
but I can do consistent 1.38.5 without much trouble.
I think the corvette is allot quicker, but I cant keep it on the track at all. No use in a race only for one flying lap.
Last go I was 1.2 sec up on my fastest lap in the last sector, only to try and make it 1.5s in the final right hander and I crashed :P
I still find it impossible to drive that lotus.
I cant go any faster than slow 1.37's with the E-type.
but I can do consistent 1.38.5 without much trouble.
I think the corvette is allot quicker, but I cant keep it on the track at all. No use in a race only for one flying lap.
Last go I was 1.2 sec up on my fastest lap in the last sector, only to try and make it 1.5s in the final right hander and I crashed :P
I still find it impossible to drive that lotus.
Holst said:
Im getting a bit better at correcting the slides, I still manage to snatch it and spin off in the opposite direction sometimes, not winding the opposite lock off fast enough.
I cant go any faster than slow 1.37's with the E-type.
but I can do consistent 1.38.5 without much trouble.
I think the corvette is allot quicker, but I cant keep it on the track at all. No use in a race only for one flying lap.
Last go I was 1.2 sec up on my fastest lap in the last sector, only to try and make it 1.5s in the final right hander and I crashed :P
I still find it impossible to drive that lotus.
Not wanting to rain on your parade, but we are posting Dijon GP lap times and not Dijon National (IIRC) that was shown in the demo - meaning we are probably racing a circuit about 10 seconds longer.
Having said that, it still sounds like you are getting there - you just need to keep continously putting the laps in...
neil_cardiff said:
Not wanting to rain on your parade, but we are posting Dijon GP lap times and not Dijon National (IIRC) that was shown in the demo - meaning we are probably racing a circuit about 10 seconds longer.
Having said that, it still sounds like you are getting there - you just need to keep continously putting the laps in...
I'm pretty sure the demo had both versions of Dijon.
Changing the subject slightly - but still in line with the topic name - does anyone know where to get a setup guide? If there isn't already a good setup available, I tend to stick with the defaults, and I'm sure that's why I'm not with the front runners. I mean, I'm driving my heart out here, it can't possibly be me at fault!
- does anyone know where to get a setup guide? If there isn't already a good setup available, I tend to stick with the defaults, and I'm sure that's why I'm not with the front runners. I mean, I'm driving my heart out here, it can't possibly be me at fault! If anybody does have any setup advise id love to read it.
My best time for the gijon short is 1.17.
I hope im doing the full GP circuit with my 1.36.1, I dont think that 10 second s quicker is possible with this car!! If anbyody can get the lotus around that quick please say so and ill give up now
My best time for the gijon short is 1.17.
I hope im doing the full GP circuit with my 1.36.1, I dont think that 10 second s quicker is possible with this car!! If anbyody can get the lotus around that quick please say so and ill give up now
Holst said:
If anybody does have any setup advise id love to read it.
My best time for the gijon short is 1.17.
I hope im doing the full GP circuit with my 1.36.1, I dont think that 10 second s quicker is possible with this car!! If anbyody can get the lotus around that quick please say so and ill give up now
According to GTL rank the best laptime for Dijon GP with the Lotus Elan is 1:30.592.
Your time would place you about 122nd. I'm 168th
I think the demo is a bit harder than the released game so hang in there, your time really isn't too bad
Are you guys using auto or manual gears.
I have been using auto, but on some corners it downshifts and makes me spin.
Playing on manual now, time down to 135.2
Can still go faster, but manual gears are making me think too much.
EDIT - Oh... sometimes im downshifting early, to try and give me less to think about and this causes the engine to overrev a bit. In a longer race will repeatedly doing this make my engine blow up?
Hopefully the full game will arrive tomorrow morning, dijon is getting a bit boring now.
>> Edited by Holst on Friday 10th February 21:16
I have been using auto, but on some corners it downshifts and makes me spin.
Playing on manual now, time down to 135.2
Can still go faster, but manual gears are making me think too much.
EDIT - Oh... sometimes im downshifting early, to try and give me less to think about and this causes the engine to overrev a bit. In a longer race will repeatedly doing this make my engine blow up?
Hopefully the full game will arrive tomorrow morning, dijon is getting a bit boring now.
>> Edited by Holst on Friday 10th February 21:16
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