buying a 340r
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mac4089

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60 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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hi all iam thinking of selling my mk1 elise which is just a fantastic car and buying a 340r, i know they are extreme and this is the car lotus hard core wanted to build in the first place, if i buy one it will used for road and the odd track day, i nearly bought one last year from my local lotus dealer then changed my mind i have read all about them and still find myself wanting one,is there any one on here who has owned one, and is there any problem's running one. any advice would be welcome many thank's.

Davey S2

13,394 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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Quite a few owners on SELOC (one of whom's car recently caught fire!)

chouca

102 posts

279 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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I was thinking about buying a 340R 2 years ago. It´s a great car, but for me it is a bit too impractical:

- no roof, how many days are 100% dry? If there´s even the slightest change of rain, you´ll drive with something else.
- no boot.
- the VHPD engine is manic above 6000 rpm, below it doesn´t have more grunt than a bog standard Elise
- the noise
- the heat from the front
- people on the road will stare even more at you

I ended up with a Honda conversion instead. And haven´t looked back...

StuartB

339 posts

266 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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There is one for sale by one of the members on SELOC which will likely to be the best example you are going to find in the UK
http://forums.seloc.org/classified.php?action=ad&

Having seen these up close, I would love one however can't afford to give up the practicality of my S1

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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They are totally impractical (in ways which make an Elise look like a family car proposition), you have the timebomb of the VPHD K-series waiting to explode behind you, EVERYONE will stare at you, you WILL get caught out in the rain in one, it will probably break down on you.

Get one - why the hell not, who cares about the above

If you can afford it, if you can store it, and if you're going to drive it like the loon-mobile it surely is then go for it. If I had the money and the space I'd be all over one like a rash

GTRene

22,748 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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chouca said:
I was thinking about buying a 340R 2 years ago. It´s a great car, but for me it is a bit too impractical:

- no roof, how many days are 100% dry? If there´s even the slightest change of rain, you´ll drive with something else

The roof thing is or will be soon sorted, cost around 4.000,- look at this reverie site;

www.reverie.ltd.uk/en/about/340r_dev.php




GTRene

>> Edited by GTRene on Wednesday 8th February 22:10

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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Yuk! That idea's been around for a while IIRC. If you want a Lotus with a hard roof buy an Exige

GTRene

22,748 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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I will try to buy a Exige S2
And I've had a ride in a 340R last year as a passenger, to 60 it feels fine, but above that no match on Dutch roads against my little monster...but thats to easy fast on thse roads, and I have to becarefull for my license! so thats also why I want a Lotus Exige more thrils at much lower speeds, so a big and low speeding tickets I hope
Hey S works, how about your license?? did you loose it already for some time? or just points? safe driver or a lucky one? or only speeding on the track...?
GTRene

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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No points for me. I'm a good boy

GTRene

22,748 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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S Works said:
No points for me. I'm a good boy

I will not ask how you do that
In the Netherlands only the new drivers get points when serious things happens(not speeding >>20 or so to fast) So I get no points..but instead they take your license when speeding above some limit..aaaaaaaaaaahhhh thats not fare! so I have to put a big stone under my pedal, so I can not drive to fast lol

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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Dude, you live in NL. Just smoke some good strong NL weed before you drive and 10mph will feel like 100mph

[Only joking, I don't condone drugs and driving]

Sorry for the thread hijack BTW!

maxf

8,444 posts

272 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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Fantastic cars - totally impractical but not quite as bad as people might think. Sure you get wet if you get caught in the rain, but you'll dry out - being prepared is the key and having a lightweight waterproof.

The VHPD is a bit boggy below 4000rpm but mad after that and certainly the fastest factory elise varient (IMO) - as they weigh the same as a paperbag. You can fit an Emerald ECU and Vernier pullies which apparently improve things no end - power and driveability.

They really do feel like nothing else to drive - almost like comparing an elise to a normal sportscar. Go-karts for the road.

Not sure where you are but you are welcome to have a go in mine (its kept in lincolnshire). Mine might end up getting traded in soon though as I have now moved to London and its not really a 'london' car

GTRene

22,748 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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well I live in the Netherlands so a bit to far away to just come over but the drive must be fantastic for drivingfun its lightweight and pure driving! and you have the 190 wich is even more fun, but best to drive it with one person only the driver because of the extra weight for such ligt car...
And no its no London car but for a lot attention it is maybe
GTRene

RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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The editor of EVO, Harry Metcalfe, ran one for a while and I followed his long term test reports with interest whilst I was on the lookout for my Caterham. What completely put me off was when he ran wide on a bend and broke the front of it slightly. The damage didn't look too bad, but it cost him £10,000.

RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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Also, if I remember rightly even the slightest bit of work on the car cost a fortune, as the bodywork had to come off to access anything (including the battery).

I'm going on memory here - my EVOs are at home. I am happy to be corrected on this

maxf

8,444 posts

272 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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RobM77 said:
The editor of EVO, Harry Metcalfe, ran one for a while and I followed his long term test reports with interest whilst I was on the lookout for my Caterham. What completely put me off was when he ran wide on a bend and broke the front of it slightly. The damage didn't look too bad, but it cost him £10,000.


I'm not convinced it was all necessary TBH - more like an open chequebook 'insurance are paying' job. From memory anyway.

The body does have to come off for some things - but its not a crazy job (IIRC lotus book time is only about 5-6 hours). If it still has the standard battery then the body needs to come off to change it, although many have race batteries (which are smaller) now. There is a charging socket for a trickle charger which keeps the battery fresh which is handy.

The biggest issue with them at the moment is the Stack dash. Its different to the elise dash and fails on almost every car. Stack charge about £350 to fix it, although once done they tend to be ok.

GTRene

22,748 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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hm, to complex and to expensive for me that 340R nice to look at and sometimes to drive, but whole year around the Exige will do much better for me
GTRene

pennpromo

121 posts

287 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Having had a little experience of Lotii recently, S1 160S, Exige S1, 340r and now an Exige S2 I would say the following:
If you can afford to have a 340R tucked away in a garage and just to bring out when it looks as though the sun might shine just do it. None of the derivatives are any faster or pure. My 340R was just as quick as my mate's new Exige 240R round Castle Combe last year, (much to his horror as it was worth about a third of the price). As posted the VHPD is sluggish under 4,000 RPM but a screamer at the top end, just make sure it has a FLSH. I part exed mine with westover in Poole, for the Exige S2. I tend to use the Exige much more but it's not so pure, things like the play in the servoed brake pedal dilute the experience from a 340R. So in summary do it !