If they can do this to each other...
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I wonder (am not sure at all though..) if this is any different to the hooligans who fight each other at football matches, If you look closely at the sheer hate on their faces as they're laying into 'Da Enemy', they looked so full of anger, I do wonder if they had a bomb to hand, would they use it?
Not the best example, I know, but I'm always amazed at the damage we can cause to each other, because they're 'in a different gang'
>> Edited by chris watton on Thursday 9th February 10:22
Not the best example, I know, but I'm always amazed at the damage we can cause to each other, because they're 'in a different gang'
>> Edited by chris watton on Thursday 9th February 10:22
I think a quote I saw the other day (could have been on PH actually) of someone pointing out that Islam started around 600 years after Christianity, and if you look at parallels between how Christianity was 600 years ago (fanaticism, Protestants vs. Catholics, general appalling behaviour in the name of religion) and how Islam is now, it would appear that Islam is probably where Christianity was in the 1400's.
Still, never mind though. By that reasoning we've got the beginning of the Islamic equivalent of the Spainish Inquisition to look forward to in about 70 years...and this time we will be expecting it!
Still, never mind though. By that reasoning we've got the beginning of the Islamic equivalent of the Spainish Inquisition to look forward to in about 70 years...and this time we will be expecting it!
Mon Ami Mate said:
Shiite muslims and Sunni muslims having been knocking chunks out of each other since time immemorial. It isn't our job to try to make them change their behaviour.
I can't help but disagree, because by virtue of the same "it's not our problem" approach if it's considered perfectly valid to slaughter other muslims in the name of islam then what difference is there to slaughtering non-muslims? Do we just turn a blind eye to it until it happens in Bradford or Birmingham? And what about people caught in the crossfire?
TeamD said:
Shiite muslims and Sunni muslims having been knocking chunks out of each other since time immemorial. It isn't our job to try to make them change their behaviour.
I can't help but disagree, because by virtue of the same "it's not our problem" approach if it's considered perfectly valid to slaughter other muslims in the name of islam then what difference is there to slaughtering non-muslims? Do we just turn a blind eye to it until it happens in Bradford or Birmingham? And what about people caught in the crossfire?
This didn't happen in Bradford or Birmingham, it happened in Pakistan. It has been happening in Pakistan for hundreds of years and, despite what you might think, is likely to continue to happen in Pakistan for hundreds of years to come. What do you suggest - sending an expeditionary force over there to ask them all to be nice to each other?
>> Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Thursday 9th February 11:31
TeamD said:
...what chance have we got of making them see sense?
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None. Common sense does not seem to be part of the genetic makeup of that part of the world. We're best off staying as far as possible from them as we can, they aint worth our effort, they aren't interested in helping themselves let alone having somebody else help them.
Mad Man said:
...what chance have we got of making them see sense?
Here
None. Common sense does not seem to be part of the genetic makeup of that part of the world. We're best off staying as far as possible from them as we can, they aint worth our effort, they aren't interested in helping themselves let alone having somebody else help them.
If that's the case then why don't we just cut out the middle man and disinfect the place with the aid of a few nukes? It's the only way to be sure.
Mad Man said:
None. Common sense does not seem to be part of the genetic makeup of that part of the world. We're best off staying as far as possible from them as we can, they aint worth our effort, they aren't interested in helping themselves let alone having somebody else help them.
The problem must come down to education, if these people had a access to a good education instead of a adhoc religious one which seems to permeate the poorer islamic countries then maybe they'll be able to learn some common sense and maturity.
scorp said:
The problem must come down to education, if these people had a access to a good education instead of a adhoc religious one which seems to permeate the poorer islamic countries then maybe they'll be able to learn some common sense and maturity.
What makes you think that they will perceive an education that teaches tolerance "good"?
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