A mundane thing which puzzles me!

[blindswelledrat]

When a foreigner is in England is it correct to pronounce thier names as they would when talking about them to other English people or should we Anglify (sp!) them?
Example: Football commentators pronounce Terry Henry "Thierry Ornry" for some poncy reason yet pronounce Jose (as in Jose Moriniho) exactly as it's spelled as opposed to the actual correct way which sounds liks 'hosey'.
Which should it be?
How little sense am I making?

[vixpy1]

Gazboy said:

Imo the former example is correct. I've never heard Jose being pronounced how you discribe though...

Nope.. me neither

[blindswelledrat]

In Spanish most, if not all, J's are pronounced as H's.

perhaps the Y on the end was a little overkill but without it it would have been a garden hose.

Its bed time I think

>> Edited by blindswelledrat on Friday 10th February 00:41

[vixpy1]

blindswelledrat said:

In Spanish most, if not all, J's are pronounced as H's.

Yes.. but i always hear it pronounced Hosey ..

Um.. football, not really my thing!

[up-the-dubs]

I heard Jose wrong on Sky Sports news only this evening! But yes, it should always be in their mother tounge. Some of my friends just call themselves the Anglisised version of their Irish name when on holidays as it causes a prob in most countries due to the rareness of Irish .

[vixpy1]

up-the-dubs said:

Some of my friends just call themselves the Anglisised version of their Irish name

What you mean.. Sean .. or .. um Sean ?

[blindswelledrat]

Or 'seen' as I would pronounce it.

[Parrot of Doom]

You pronounce the name in the fashion that the owner would like. Its called 'politeness'

[up-the-dubs]

vixpy1 said:

up-the-dubs said: Some of my friends just call themselves the Anglisised version of their Irish name What you mean.. Sean .. or .. um Sean ?

Yes Charlie, That's the only Irish name there is

[blindswelledrat]

I assumed this was the case- the question was prompted by the fact that, despite Vixpy and Gaz's protestations, every single person I have heard on Sky refers to the Chelsea manager as Jose with a J.
Admittedly more upmarket channels like the good old Beeb seem to get it right but it just made me wonder!

[RobDickinson]

Isnt Jose Mourhinio Portugese not spanish, and they pronoiunce J as J not H ?

[blindswelledrat]

Now you've opened a can of worms!

[RobDickinson]

Uh have I? Fairly sure portugese pronounces J as J ( a soft/g sounding j) rather than the spanish 'khe' flem thing.

[vixpy1]

up-the-dubs said:

vixpy1 said: up-the-dubs said: Some of my friends just call themselves the Anglisised version of their Irish name What you mean.. Sean .. or .. um Sean ? Yes Charlie, That's the only Irish name there is

See.. even the Irish agree!

[dmitsi]

Jose Morihnio (however you spell his last name) pronounces his own name Josey, not Hosey, so I would assume we have it right.

[wolves_wanderer]

RobDickinson said:

Isnt Jose Mourhinio Portugese not spanish, and they pronoiunce J as J not H ?

Yep, that's the reason.

[tvrolet]

foreign names mispronunced like Sir Men-Zies Campbell?

[telecat]

But What about Colin(Coe-Lynne) Powell????

[vixpy1]

telecat said:

But What about Colin(Coe-Lynne) Powell????

Yea.. I said George Bush the other day, but it sounded like STUPID FkING IDIOT..

Funny Americans say it so easily

>> Edited by vixpy1 on Friday 10th February 16:41

[vipers]

Many moons ago during my stint in the Royal Navy, a new Lieutenant named GASH joined the boat.

In those days, rubbish was ditched at sea, and rubbish was referred to as GASH, so each evening around 1900 (7pm) a Tanny would boom out "Ditch all gash now".

Shortly thereafter another Tanny was made for "Lt Gash to the bridge",on arriving on the bridge he politely informed the chap who made the tannoy, his name was pronounced Gar-sh, not Gash.

The following evening at 1900 the usual tannoy was made, with a slight difference in pronouncation, "Ditch all gar-sh now".

No help at all I know.....