8M RADIO MAST !
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IS200RJR

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796 posts

273 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Last night I went round to see my father in-law and as soon as i got through the door he handed me a letter he had recived informing that the council wish to give permission to have a 8 meter radio mast right outside his house (lounge window) has anybody ever had a problem like this and know of any way to fight it ?

minornut

1,049 posts

268 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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8 metres is not a very big radio mast. The eaves of most houses are a similar height. It may just be like a normal telegraph pole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_masts_and_towers

g_attrill

9,148 posts

277 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Probably one of those 3G masts about the size of a lamp post, with a long white tube on the top. They have dozens of them in Basingstoke, I couldn't believe how many there were.

Gareth

raceboy

13,936 posts

311 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Look on the plus side, at least he'll get great radio/phone reception.

aldi

9,292 posts

268 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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It will probably look something like this:

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Liszt

4,337 posts

301 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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aldi said:
It will probably look something like this:

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Very good.

john_p

7,073 posts

281 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Having objected to a number of mobile phone masts (living in a rather picturesque conservation area and all that), I can tell you that the council will oppose it too, then the company involved will take it to appeal and Prescott will personally approve it. As has been the case the last three instances here, although not as high as 8m.

Good luck in any case.
edit: I just checked the letter and it was a 20m mast!!

>> Edited by john_p on Friday 10th February 14:37

mrs trackside

9,299 posts

264 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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IS200RJR said:
Last night I went round to see my father in-law and as soon as i got through the door he handed me a letter he had recived informing that the council wish to give permission to have a 8 meter radio mast right outside his house (lounge window) has anybody ever had a problem like this and know of any way to fight it ?


From how that reads, all he has to do is write back to the council telling them he doesn't want a mast outside his house. In the time it takes them to write back, he can think of reasons to help his cause.

MilnerR

8,273 posts

289 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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IS200RJR said:
Last night I went round to see my father in-law and as soon as i got through the door he handed me a letter he had recived informing that the council wish to give permission to have a 8 meter radio mast right outside his house (lounge window) has anybody ever had a problem like this and know of any way to fight it ?


You can make objections in writing and speak at the planning meeting (you have to inform the council what you are going to say). If the decision goes against you, you're basically ed, 3rd parties have no right of appeal regarding planning applications. From what I've heard regarding masts is that there is little or no chance of getting it stopped. Its not like its going to affect your father-in-law's light or affect the use he gets out of his property. Also, contary to popular belief you don't have the right to a view.

venom

1,864 posts

290 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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An 8 metre high telecommunications mast falls within the definition of 'permitted development' as prescribed by planning legislation. The telecoms company therefore don't have to make a normal application like you or I would for an extension, for example. The Council's hands are largely tied in that they have to demonstrate that the siting and design of the mast are unacceptable (and aren't allowed to consider potential health implications as nothing has ever been proven to show they cause harm) and even then they can only refuse if a more suitable site is available that hasn't been considered properly by the operators.

Talking from personal experience here you might find that for a mast of this height the Council won't have a committee meeting for it because of the legislation. If the Council doesn't determine the application within 56 days of it being submitted the law says that they have 'deemed' consent and can build it anyway, regardless of local objection.

>> Edited by venom on Friday 10th February 15:17

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

265 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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I suggest your father gets a picture of a similar mast, prints a nice A4 poster with the proposed siting, and nails it to every tree in the area, with the details for objection at the bottom.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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bet you he can cut them down quicker than they can put them up

IS200RJR

Original Poster:

796 posts

273 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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B17NNS said:
bet you he can cut them down quicker than they can put them up



yes this is his first reaction

YarisSi

1,538 posts

275 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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We live in a place of outstanding natural beauty and they have erected something that must be 20 meters with big supporting wires. It is a tad annoying as I don't own and hate mobile phones.

dtmpower

3,972 posts

276 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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YarisSi said:
We live in a place of outstanding natural beauty and they have erected something that must be 20 meters with big supporting wires. It is a tad annoying as I don't own and hate mobile phones.


How can you hate mobile phones ? I suppose you hate radio systems (police/fire/ambulance/rescue) and any other radio mast utility ?

ledfoot

777 posts

283 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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IS200RJR said:
has anybody ever had a problem like this and know of any way to fight it ?


Why fight it ?

Do you have a radio ?

Do you want good reception?

Put up or shut up

sadako

7,080 posts

269 months

Saturday 11th February 2006
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It'll probably be a big pole with 3 "planks" on the top. You never know, might be one of those fake tree ones...

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

286 months

Saturday 11th February 2006
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I don't want to sound harsh, but does he have a mobile phone himself? If he does, then he can hardly complain. It's fine to have it in someone elses back yard. People use mobiles all over, in fact I think the VAST majority of peeps have them, yet when it comes down to providing service, people end up in arms about it. They complain if thy are next door, atop a church, near a supermarket. They are only happy if it is somewhere where it is of no use to any one...

YarisSi

1,538 posts

275 months

Saturday 11th February 2006
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Yes, I get to complain.
I'm sure mobile phones are really useful for vital services but they also operated before we had mobile phones. I don't own a mobile phone because I think they are vile and people who own them especially in my generation have no phone etiquette and seem hooked on them so much that they cannot be without them. If forced to turn them off when leaving they all quickly turn them on and have to call someone. They can no longer be alone or hold a conversation without being interrupted.
Few people are important/vital enough to need to be contactable 24 hrs a day.
I do accept that they are useful but I have coped adequately without one, infact I've proabably done better without one as I have saved money, had to deal with emergencies and difficult situations by using my head and if I really need a phone I can use a payphone or ask at a shop or office.

I also strangly hope the whole microwaves thing is true because I will be about the only british man with functioning testicals (due to carry phones in pockets and pupils playing with phones under tables). You have to see "The Most Fertile Man in Ireland" to understand.

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

286 months

Saturday 11th February 2006
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I'm sure you will agree with Transport 2000 and ditch your car, and take the bus, or ride a bike?