500 quid to shop a drunk driver
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Crimestoppers are offering to pay £500 to anyone who reports a drunk driver that results in a successful prosecution.
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-515131,00.html
So you might not shop your best mate but what about a work colleague or your boss or would you never shop anyone?
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-515131,00.html
So you might not shop your best mate but what about a work colleague or your boss or would you never shop anyone?
Depends. If it was someone that I knew was an habitual drink-driver (and also didn't give a sh!t about it) then I wouldn't hesitate in shopping them. Shopping a good friend is probably unlikely because I would hopefully consider myself enough of a mate to stop them getting behind the wheel of a car whilst over the limit in the first place.
I think that anyone who doesn't drink and drive habitually is more likely to make alternative arrangements anyway.
IMO Drink drivers are the scum of the earth.
>> Edited by Teppic on Monday 16th December 16:20
I think that anyone who doesn't drink and drive habitually is more likely to make alternative arrangements anyway.
IMO Drink drivers are the scum of the earth.
>> Edited by Teppic on Monday 16th December 16:20
As much as I hate to aid the police in any way after the way they have treated me over the years, drink drivers really f**k me off.
A work college recently admitted to drink driving as normal about 20 years ago. Said he was involved in about 3 hit and runs. I should have played along with him and got loads of info and passed it on to the local constabulary but instead I think I threatened to remove half his brain with a meat tenderiser.
Scum of the earth.
A work college recently admitted to drink driving as normal about 20 years ago. Said he was involved in about 3 hit and runs. I should have played along with him and got loads of info and passed it on to the local constabulary but instead I think I threatened to remove half his brain with a meat tenderiser.
Scum of the earth.
Agree with Podie, theres no excuse for it.
Its hard enough as it is, dodging numptys hopping off the pavement and other fools not paying attention, without the added extra problems of being tanked up.
It just shows how far the police are from getting the trust of the public, and their goodwill too, as they have to pay the public to get info.
Was a time when theyd get it for nothing such was public respect for them.
£500 squids isnt much to grass up Princess Anne tho, is it?
Its hard enough as it is, dodging numptys hopping off the pavement and other fools not paying attention, without the added extra problems of being tanked up.
It just shows how far the police are from getting the trust of the public, and their goodwill too, as they have to pay the public to get info.
Was a time when theyd get it for nothing such was public respect for them.
£500 squids isnt much to grass up Princess Anne tho, is it?
deltaf said:[/i
It just shows how far the police are from getting the trust of the public, and their goodwill too, as they have to pay the public to get info.
Was a time when theyd get it for nothing such was public respect for them.
totally..the very fact they have to offer money for this is a shame. As was said higher up by everyone who here wouldnt' shop a DD for free?
Clever idea in a way - all the 'no mates' will be sat outside the pub near Christmas, on their own, just shopping person after person. You could make a small fortune in some places I reckon.....!
Thank the Lord you don't live in Spain, at least the South, I've just bought a place down there and was thumbing through the local English rag.
There was an interesting article on a night spent with the local Guardia Civil on a Road block to stop drink drivers in Malaga.
I kid you not but if you are stopped and test positive immediatley you have 20 minutes at the roadside to take the test again. If negative , you can go on your way. If positive after 20 mins, the GC will give you a lift home or arrange for a taxi. If you "feel" more sober later on you can return and take the test again , if negative you can drive away.
The GC will only arrest if serioulsy drunk, ie clearly incapable of driving. Then you would more than likely get a fine . It is unlikely that a licence would have to be surrendered!!
The only slight consolation to this amazing attitude is that the Spainsh do not have an booze/pub culture and as such the number of problems caused by Drink Drivers is supposedly relitivley low. Still, I am much more on my guard when driving at night out there.
There was an interesting article on a night spent with the local Guardia Civil on a Road block to stop drink drivers in Malaga.
I kid you not but if you are stopped and test positive immediatley you have 20 minutes at the roadside to take the test again. If negative , you can go on your way. If positive after 20 mins, the GC will give you a lift home or arrange for a taxi. If you "feel" more sober later on you can return and take the test again , if negative you can drive away.
The GC will only arrest if serioulsy drunk, ie clearly incapable of driving. Then you would more than likely get a fine . It is unlikely that a licence would have to be surrendered!!
The only slight consolation to this amazing attitude is that the Spainsh do not have an booze/pub culture and as such the number of problems caused by Drink Drivers is supposedly relitivley low. Still, I am much more on my guard when driving at night out there.
I've done it. Twice. To people I don't like. I guess it sounds vicious, but that's worth more than £500 to me.
The only thing is, the second time I reported someone, I waited over two hours for the police to turn up and grab him when he got back to his car. They didn't, and allowed him to drink-drive merrily on his way.
The money thing is just a way to massage statistics, IMO. Reports of drink-driving will go up this Christmas, but convictions will be no more than the seasonal average because the police can't get there in time.So no £500s will be spent.
The only thing is, the second time I reported someone, I waited over two hours for the police to turn up and grab him when he got back to his car. They didn't, and allowed him to drink-drive merrily on his way.
The money thing is just a way to massage statistics, IMO. Reports of drink-driving will go up this Christmas, but convictions will be no more than the seasonal average because the police can't get there in time.So no £500s will be spent.
Ummm. Not sure about this.
So none of us have ever had "a tiny bit" over the limit? I have a couple of times, no problems. Obviously that is when I was younger, and used the car more. Don't touch a drop when on the bike..
The breath test is stupid - why not make a suspect do a competancy test? that way you could ban morons as well as drunks?
C
So none of us have ever had "a tiny bit" over the limit? I have a couple of times, no problems. Obviously that is when I was younger, and used the car more. Don't touch a drop when on the bike..
The breath test is stupid - why not make a suspect do a competancy test? that way you could ban morons as well as drunks?
C
shadowninja said: one thing is on my mind... drink driving has become sociably unacceptable. snag is the government want to make "speeding" socially unacceptable... so will we soon be offered £500 to shop a mate who's doing 31 in a 30?
Yes its coming the proof is the comments here about DD. The spin has worked and unless we do something now we who fracture the speed laws are history. Enough is enough.
The problem is with all this crap about Drink Driving being unacceptable is a lot of the people who will watch a bloke drink 3 pints in a pub go out and get in his car will call him irresponsible and rant on about how much of a danger he is to other road users. Of course they dont drink and drive - they leave the car at home when they go out on a Friday , drink untill they cant take any more and then get up and take the family shopping in the morning - WITH FAR MORE ALCOHOL IN THEM THAN THE GEEZER WHOS HAD 3 pints and driven.
I really believe that over 75% of people have at sometime driven under the infuence of alchohol. Most of them through nothing more than ignorance. For instance at a works party last christmas people drank untill about 0130 and then got up from various floors, Hotel rooms etc and dove to work - If the stories of the amount people where drinking where true around 90% of the twats where pissed. A couple of years ago a mate was out of work, he lived in the middle of knowhere and had borrowed my Lupo, I had a girlfriend at the time who had kids so I drove to said mates and swapped the cars, he looked so down I slipped him 50 notes as I had just had a small lottery win (only £1K)and told him to go pick his lady up and take her for a meal in the country and enjoy the car, What does the twat do (and yes by his own admision he was a twat) goes to Stoke and gets rat arsed and then picked up over in Leek. He refused to give a sample of breath and lost his licencse for 2 years. He was advised that his ban would be cut if he did the Driving and Alcohol Education course ( this cuts the length of the ban by up to 25% - But and this is made clear at the beginning of the course - If you get caught again you WILL get a custodial sentence as you cannot not plead ignorance as to the action of alcohol on your driving etc). Any one who has taken this course or has studied the rates of inebriation and the rate at which the body can 'clear' alcohol out has probably been quite shocked. Booze is a fairly stable chemical and keeps its properties untill broken down by the body. The human body has a fairly fixed rate at which it can process alcohol - Take this example taken from the Avvoid website -
13% of all excess alcohol offences are committed next morning. Most of those drivers had no idea they still had alcohol left in their system from the night before, they usually FEEL sober.
It is said that this is only the tip of an iceberg as, in the past, the Police have not been looking out for drink-drivers in the morning, as they do at night.
This is changing, the number of 'morning after' convictions is on the rise. If these people are driving on the company's behalf, even in their own vehicle, the problem becomes the company's, as do many of the costs and the corporate liability.
Try this - You get home from work about 8pm and walk to your local pub. You kick-off with a pint of well earned lager, or if you prefer a double + mixer. At about half eight you have a meal, and 3 glasses of red wine. You walk home, where you finish off with a brandy. It's been a good day and you get to bed around 12:15am.
6:45am - you're on the road to beat the traffic, sitting at the
lights, someone runs in the back of you, no great damage,
bit of broken glass but still drivable.
7:00am - the Police turn up: "would you mind blowing .... "
What will your BAC (Breath Alcohol Concentration) be?
9 – 35 – 50 – 40 – 0 – 15 – No idea? what's the limit?
You did everything right last night, no intention of driving,
If the pint was 5.2%abv (Stella), the wine 3 x 250ml x 15%abv, and it was a double Brandy then you could have consumed 16 UNITs of alcohol. Then by 7am, if you were a 10st. woman, your Breath Alcohol Concentration (BAC) could still be around 50, if you were an 11½st. man it could be about 40, (the limit is 35) you would be over the limit and be banned for at least a year (the minimum sentence for a first time offender with a clean licence). Even lesser amounts leave early risers at risk, 3 late pints or 3 glasses of wine and you’ve got a problem at 6am - scarry aint it
I really believe that over 75% of people have at sometime driven under the infuence of alchohol. Most of them through nothing more than ignorance. For instance at a works party last christmas people drank untill about 0130 and then got up from various floors, Hotel rooms etc and dove to work - If the stories of the amount people where drinking where true around 90% of the twats where pissed. A couple of years ago a mate was out of work, he lived in the middle of knowhere and had borrowed my Lupo, I had a girlfriend at the time who had kids so I drove to said mates and swapped the cars, he looked so down I slipped him 50 notes as I had just had a small lottery win (only £1K)and told him to go pick his lady up and take her for a meal in the country and enjoy the car, What does the twat do (and yes by his own admision he was a twat) goes to Stoke and gets rat arsed and then picked up over in Leek. He refused to give a sample of breath and lost his licencse for 2 years. He was advised that his ban would be cut if he did the Driving and Alcohol Education course ( this cuts the length of the ban by up to 25% - But and this is made clear at the beginning of the course - If you get caught again you WILL get a custodial sentence as you cannot not plead ignorance as to the action of alcohol on your driving etc). Any one who has taken this course or has studied the rates of inebriation and the rate at which the body can 'clear' alcohol out has probably been quite shocked. Booze is a fairly stable chemical and keeps its properties untill broken down by the body. The human body has a fairly fixed rate at which it can process alcohol - Take this example taken from the Avvoid website -
13% of all excess alcohol offences are committed next morning. Most of those drivers had no idea they still had alcohol left in their system from the night before, they usually FEEL sober.
It is said that this is only the tip of an iceberg as, in the past, the Police have not been looking out for drink-drivers in the morning, as they do at night.
This is changing, the number of 'morning after' convictions is on the rise. If these people are driving on the company's behalf, even in their own vehicle, the problem becomes the company's, as do many of the costs and the corporate liability.
Try this - You get home from work about 8pm and walk to your local pub. You kick-off with a pint of well earned lager, or if you prefer a double + mixer. At about half eight you have a meal, and 3 glasses of red wine. You walk home, where you finish off with a brandy. It's been a good day and you get to bed around 12:15am.
6:45am - you're on the road to beat the traffic, sitting at the
lights, someone runs in the back of you, no great damage,
bit of broken glass but still drivable.
7:00am - the Police turn up: "would you mind blowing .... "
What will your BAC (Breath Alcohol Concentration) be?
9 – 35 – 50 – 40 – 0 – 15 – No idea? what's the limit?
You did everything right last night, no intention of driving,
If the pint was 5.2%abv (Stella), the wine 3 x 250ml x 15%abv, and it was a double Brandy then you could have consumed 16 UNITs of alcohol. Then by 7am, if you were a 10st. woman, your Breath Alcohol Concentration (BAC) could still be around 50, if you were an 11½st. man it could be about 40, (the limit is 35) you would be over the limit and be banned for at least a year (the minimum sentence for a first time offender with a clean licence). Even lesser amounts leave early risers at risk, 3 late pints or 3 glasses of wine and you’ve got a problem at 6am - scarry aint it
It is said that this is only the tip of an iceberg as, in the past, the Police have not been looking out for drink-drivers in the morning, as they do at night
Of course the North Wales Police are ahead of the game here too..... favourite trick I am told is to set up a road block on the way to British Aerospace at Broughton near Chester the morning after the works xmas bash. They have to set up a special court to deal with all the ones they catch.
hertsbiker said:
The breath test is stupid - why not make a suspect do a competancy test? that way you could ban morons as well as drunks?
Carl, you are one funny bugger
but I love the idea of a competency test as we will get rid of most of the "drivers" for sure 
BTW I have seen someone I know drink all afternoon (definitely over the limit by long way!) get his missus to start driving home, then take the wheel and get stopped by booze bus
Police let him go as he was under the limit!!!!! No way, >20 beers in a couple of hours at least (he thought he'd be gone too) I obviously has something to do with your metabolism but the roadside tests must have a flaw, I got lumbered by roadside then the station machine confirmed I'd only had a couple of beers with a very low reading.
I think a blood test is the only really accurate reading ??
hertsbiker said: Ummm. Not sure about this.
So none of us have ever had "a tiny bit" over the limit? I have a couple of times, no problems. Obviously that is when I was younger, and used the car more. Don't touch a drop when on the bike..
The breath test is stupid - why not make a suspect do a competancy test? that way you could ban morons as well as drunks?
C
could give the traffic cop one as well that would sove a few more probs :-)
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