944: Will the good ones start to appreciate it value soon?
944: Will the good ones start to appreciate it value soon?
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AdvocatusDiaboli

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2,278 posts

259 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Been doing some thinking of late... 944's are perhaps the most undervalued cars on the market (perhaps because so many were built). However, maybe the time is now coming where good ones, with decent miles and condition are getting harder to find.

Does anyone see values beginning to climb sooon? The Turbos are a candidate for that...

I have a Turbo Cab (only 43 in UK) in great condition and I'll bet that I'll sell it for more than I bought it for in 4 years or so...

What does collective wisdom say?

cuneus

5,963 posts

270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Go on then how much did you pay for the Cab ?

Andy_Clap

129 posts

297 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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I think that rare metal like your turbo cab will go up in value. Run of the mill stuff will fall. I think really nice turbos with low milage and solid histories will hold their value, with money to be made on seasonal variations.

cuneus

5,963 posts

270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Evidence ?

www.pistonheads.com/sales/57313.htm

look good and prices seem still to be falling

AdvocatusDiaboli

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Friday 10th February 2006
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Wow. You had a 993 T 4 and a 968 Turbo? I didn't even know the 968 Turbo existed! What are they worth these days?

>> Edited by AdvocatusDiaboli on Friday 10th February 11:34

cuneus

5,963 posts

270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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"Fantasy cars" before I get accused of living a virtual dream

There were only 4 968 turbo RS's made see here www.968turbo.homestead.com/

The last one to change hands went to Jason at Paragon in the USA (a very nice bloke btw)



>> Edited by cuneus on Friday 10th February 11:31

AdvocatusDiaboli

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Friday 10th February 2006
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Quite superb. Well done hero!

I'd love to have a 968 turbo as my next car... Are they road legal? Are they toally out of budget? Prices in stratosphere?

david968s

415 posts

258 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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The Turbo RS was a race car - there are many replicas around. There were 16 factory Turbo S's built - road going versions. The last one of them I saw for sale was in Germany a couple of years back - asking price was about €75k IIRC. There are some superb replicas of those around too - mostly in the states. One or two are being built in the UK at the moment by various enthusiasts.

cuneus

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270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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IIRC the RS that Jason bought was up for about $65,000

The last Turbo S sold (which was Midnight Blue metallic) was up for around £30,000 and it was later seen at Croft:

www.titanic.co.uk/cgi-bin/galleryimage.py?intReqPict=1519&intReqGall=2

>> Edited by cuneus on Friday 10th February 12:23

david968s

415 posts

258 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Wow, I didn't know that there were any in the UK - any idea if it is still around?

mr_yogi

3,288 posts

283 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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How much power did the Turbo S put out?

Oh dear we seem to have de-railed this thread

cuneus

5,963 posts

270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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305 bhp

but more importantly 369 lb ft @3000 rpm

(easily achieved on a modded 944 turbo, well not quite at those revs)

AdvocatusDiaboli

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259 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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mr_yogi said:
How much power did the Turbo S put out?

Oh dear we seem to have de-railed this thread


That's alright, I did start the derailment off by mentioning it in the first place.

However, do feel free to continue with the 944 thread!

cuneus

5,963 posts

270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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see my question at the beginning

verychilled

77 posts

256 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Got to be £8-10k for a quality 951 (944 Turbo), Cab maybe £12k depending on condition. Sunday Times did a write up last April saying good value for money then. Still think so now. Dont see appreciation for 944 Turbo for another 5 years but definately holding in value. 944 S2 will continue to depreciate IMO. I dont see any reason for it to increase, no dislike for the car mind.

AdvocatusDiaboli

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Friday 10th February 2006
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Yup, inclined to agree. I paid between 9-10 for my T Cab, and I reckon with the work done to it, it should be worth around 12 now. Another 150 quid on stone chips and internal touch-up should make it mint(ish!)

Of course, with cars like these - someone always really NEEDS to want it. My car has 80k on the clock, so that's low miles for a 944!

AdvocatusDiaboli

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Friday 10th February 2006
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cuneus said:
305 bhp

but more importantly 369 lb ft @3000 rpm

(easily achieved on a modded 944 turbo, well not quite at those revs)


What was the lag like? 944 lag is noticeable....!

cuneus

5,963 posts

270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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A nice looking turbo on PH for 8k

A lovely turbo cab went for 9k late last year

I rest my case m'Lud

unless the defence can produce some evidence ?

dern

14,055 posts

307 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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I can't see them appreciating as a general rule ever to be honest. You may buy a bargain and sell it for more than you paid or you might restore an example but as a general rule, no. The best you can hope for is that the rate of depreciation slows so it would appear that prices have bottomed out which they haven't appeared to have done.

Mark

cuneus

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Friday 10th February 2006
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AdvocatusDiaboli said:
cuneus said:
305 bhp

but more importantly 369 lb ft @3000 rpm

(easily achieved on a modded 944 turbo, well not quite at those revs)


What was the lag like? 944 lag is noticeable....!


944 lag is mostly down to the premature opening of the wastegate (designed) by a weak spring

You are never going to defy the laws of physics but a dual port wastegate or MBC is going to transform the experience