When is a botch not a botch?
When is a botch not a botch?
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zcacogp

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11,239 posts

275 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Chaps,

One to ponder. When is a botch not a botch?

As usual, there is a story attached.

My elderly Golf (Mk2 GTi) has a number of breathers on the engine, one of which runs from the cam cover to the inlet manifold. This is rubber, and had perished - became brittle, and eventually collapsed.

So, I fixed it.

Not with a VW part (as this would be very expensive), but with a bit of hosepipe from the hose in our back garden. It was about the right diameter, although needed to be sleeved up to fit at the cam cover end, which I did with a larger bit of rubber tubing. (I cut a bit of copper pipe to fit inside the hosepipe to prevent it from collapsing at the point where it is sleeved up, and put a jubilee clip around the sleeving point to keep it together.)

And it all works very well. Neat, tidy, very functional. It does look like a bit of hosepipe on top of the engine, although were it not green with the distinctive criss-cross pattern, you wouldn't look twice at it.

But, this led me to thinking - is this a botch? Some people would look at it, and accuse me of poor engineering practices worthy only of stoning to death because I used a bit of hosepipe instead of a VW-approved moulded rubber part. Others (of a similar mindset to me) would congratulate me on a good repair costing less than 2p.

So, the question. Did I do a botch job? If so, why? If not, why not? (I would post a photo of the repair if I had a digital camera.)

What is a botch and what isn't botch?


Oli.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

270 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Have you checked it's heat resistant properties? Melted hosepipe would be a real sod to get off

chassis 33

6,194 posts

313 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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A botch is a botch when it fails to do the job asked of it, until then it is a perfectly good solution to a problem.

Regards
Iain

motco

17,660 posts

277 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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tvrgit

8,490 posts

283 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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The chap who fixed the sills on my Ford Cortina, with newspaper and oil tins - that was a bodge.

Pumping body filler into the king pin grease nipple on something or other to take up the play so it would pass an MOT - that was a bodge.

Fixing something so that it works as it did before, but not necessarily using the originl parts - that's not a bodge, that's ingenuity!

wedg1e

27,044 posts

296 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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I believe the expression is a 'field repair'

One of the best examples I can recall was when the Africar (remember that?) was being tested on some of the most atrocious roads on the planet (in Africa ), it broke a track rod end.
The local witchdoctor-cum-welder held the pieces together with his feet and welded a length of 1" angle-iron across the break. That repair lasted the rest of the trip, right back to the UK, by which time they'd forgotten about it. IIRC it later failed an MOT though I don't see why, if it was serviceable...