PC Tax
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scorp

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8,783 posts

260 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Think i've mentioned this a few times in the past, the govt are planning to tax pc's now
www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/03/pc_tax/

timmy30

9,325 posts

258 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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So long as they don't bring in a pissing off out of the UK tax.

slapmatt

1,132 posts

253 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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timmy30 said:
So long as they don't bring in a pissing off out of the UK tax.

Shhhh. hell, don't give them ideas.

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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scorp said:
Think i've mentioned this a few times in the past, the govt are planning to tax pc's now
www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/03/pc_tax/


This idea has been floated regularly.

I think its a cak idea myself. They should just charge a flat £40 tax for everyone - and collect it via PAYE. If you earn, then once a year the Revenue get £40 and hand it to the Beeb.

Either that or the Beeb should go subscription just like all the commercial channels. If you want the TV you subscribe and pay for it.

In either case the "Licence Fee" is going to be totally outdated in ten years time and *something* will need doing to alter the way we pay for the Beeb. The question will be do we keep the BBC "Public" and ensure it is "Free At The Point Of Use" like the NHS or do we force it to become "commercial" and compete for our subscriptions along with everyone else.

scorp

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8,783 posts

260 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Knowing this lot, they will go for the optimum revenue strategy, if it works out there are more PC's than TV sets to tax, you bet we'll be taxed per pc.

>> Edited by scorp on Monday 13th February 11:07

speedchick

5,290 posts

253 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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They did say on the BBC news this morning that if you get one of those mobile phones that will be able to receive tv, then you have to have a tv licence (whether you watch it on your phone or not)

off_again

13,917 posts

265 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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scorp said:
Think i've mentioned this a few times in the past, the govt are planning to tax pc's now
www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/03/pc_tax/


Which government? This one? Dont think so - no change needed until 2017 and even the most loyal Labour supporter needs to admit that there is no chance they will still be in power then.

Idea is flawed and fundamentally daft. But, give it 5 year and it wont seem so stupid - anyone seen the BBC Media Player yet? Impressive stuff. Anyway, needs a change to the system as a whole as it sucks. Will a PC still be a PC in 2017? Is your PC the same as it was in 1995? Nah, exactly....

RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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What if your PC isn't connected to the internet? What about shared broadband connections? What about businesses that have PCs connected to the web?

A friend of mine doesn't have a TV - he watches what little television that he does on his PC. I presume he has some sort of TV card in it. Should he be paying a license fee for that?

jimothy

5,151 posts

268 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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speedchick said:
They did say on the BBC news this morning that if you get one of those mobile phones that will be able to receive tv, then you have to have a tv licence (whether you watch it on your phone or not)


But a TV license is for a house, not a tv, so does that mena you can only watch your mobile tv in places where there is already a tv license in place. And how do you license a train for example?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

275 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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RobM77 said:
I presume he has some sort of TV card in it. Should he be paying a license fee for that?

In a word, yes.
Not I hasten to add that it's any skin off my teeth if he doesn't and continues to get away with it.

>> Edited by Einion Yrth on Monday 13th February 11:27

Yugguy

10,728 posts

266 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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scorp said:
Think i've mentioned this a few times in the past, the govt are planning to tax pc's now
www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/03/pc_tax/


Ok, not to be retentive but I think we know that to be grammatically correct it should be PCS and not pc's.

It's just that on a keyboard I purchased yesterday from PC World it had printed on the box in huge letters...

"Compatible with all PC's".

Now not one person from the designers, the printers, not anyone, had picked up on this. It's why I despair for literacy in this country as it doesn't seem to matter anymore.

scorp

Original Poster:

8,783 posts

260 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Yugguy said:
Ok, not to be retentive but I think we know that to be grammatically correct it should be PCS and not pc's.

It's just that on a keyboard I purchased yesterday from PC World it had printed on the box in huge letters...

"Compatible with all PC's".

Now not one person from the designers, the printers, not anyone, had picked up on this. It's why I despair for literacy in this country as it doesn't seem to matter anymore.

Want to discuss this outside?

>> Edited by scorp on Monday 13th February 11:35

hedders

24,460 posts

278 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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jimothy said:
speedchick said:
They did say on the BBC news this morning that if you get one of those mobile phones that will be able to receive tv, then you have to have a tv licence (whether you watch it on your phone or not)


But a TV license is for a house, not a tv, so does that mena you can only watch your mobile tv in places where there is already a tv license in place. And how do you license a train for example?


Ah no doubt that would be covered by a roaming tax...

for an extra fee, naturally

Yugguy

10,728 posts

266 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Ah mate I wasn't getting at you, noone gets grammar right on a forum or needs to really. I'm always amazed tho at how shoddy things can be that can reflect on a company's reputation.

I mean I already knew PC World were a shower of incompetent s but this just confirms it.

RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Yugguy said:
Ah mate I wasn't getting at you, noone gets grammar right on a forum or needs to really. I'm always amazed tho at how shoddy things can be that can reflect on a company's reputation.

I mean I already knew PC World were a shower of incompetent s but this just confirms it.


I agree. When something official that's going to be printed in bulk isn't grammatically correct it really is a bit p*ss poor. Marks and Spencers ran a series of posters in their stores a few years ago and one of them said something like "all trouser's half price"

Greengrocers are of course exempt from this

TeamD

5,060 posts

263 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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speedchick said:
They did say on the BBC news this morning that if you get one of those mobile phones that will be able to receive tv, then you have to have a tv licence (whether you watch it on your phone or not)


That's not true. You only have to have a licence if you actually watch TV on the device. You don't have to have a licence to own a TV or phone or whatever. This is how they try to hoodwink you into buying one even if you don't watch it.

JMGS4

8,932 posts

301 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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timmy30 said:
So long as they don't bring in a pissing off out of the UK tax.

Sssshhhhh!!! Not too loud, they already do this in Switzerland when you change Cantons!!! Don't give greedy gordon or bLIAR another idea FFS!!!

TeamD

5,060 posts

263 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Yugguy said:

It's just that on a keyboard I purchased yesterday from PC World it had printed on the box in huge letters...

"Compatible with all PC's".

Now not one person from the designers, the printers, not anyone, had picked up on this. It's why I despair for literacy in this country as it doesn't seem to matter anymore.


I very much doubt that the designers, printers or manufacturers were resident in this country.

JMGS4

8,932 posts

301 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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TeamD said:
speedchick said:
They did say on the BBC news this morning that if you get one of those mobile phones that will be able to receive tv, then you have to have a tv licence (whether you watch it on your phone or not)


That's not true. You only have to have a licence if you actually watch TV on the device. You don't have to have a licence to own a TV or phone or whatever. This is how they try to hoodwink you into buying one even if you don't watch it.


I believe the wording is if the PC is "capable of receiving" NOT whether you actually use it that way or not...i.e. if fitted with the possibility to watch it, card, programme etc you have to pay... BTW that's the way it'll be as of 1.1.07 throughout the EU!!!!!not just ol Blighty

TeamD

5,060 posts

263 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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JMGS4 said:
I believe the wording is if the PC is "capable of receiving" NOT whether you actually use it that way or not...i.e. if fitted with the possibility to watch it, card, programme etc you have to pay... BTW that's the way it'll be as of 1.1.07 throughout the EU!!!!!not just ol Blighty


Not according to the TV Licence people.

Thieving Robbing B*stards said:

Do I need a licence?

If you use a TV or any other device to receive or record TV programmes (for example, a VCR, set-top box, DVD recorder or PC with a broadcast card) - you need a TV Licence. You are required by law to have one.


Of course, the following is absolute cr@p...

Thieving Robbing B*stards said:

What if I only use a TV to watch videos/DVDs/as a monitor for my games console? Do I still need a licence?

You need to notify us in writing that this is the case and one our Enforcement Officers may need to visit you to confirm that you do not need a licence.

Please write to us including your name, address and the reason you believe that you don't need a licence at:

TV Licensing
Bristol
BS98 1TL


You don't have to do anything, it's not against the law to tell them to "fk off", they'll just harass you for ever and a day with increasingly rude language implying that you are a crimminal because you don't subscribe to or use their service. Fkers!

>> Edited by TeamD on Monday 13th February 12:07