Banning radar detectors - consultation document
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Nasty, but unlikely. How would it be enforced?
Anyway, I use a Geodesy - which is not a detector, thus not covered by this stupid (potential) rule.
It also shows it all to be a bit sham - if you detect a radar, and slow down, surely you have acted responsibly, and maybe saved a life.. are they suggesting that it is preferable to issue a ticket, rather than getting you to slow down???
Anyway, I use a Geodesy - which is not a detector, thus not covered by this stupid (potential) rule.
It also shows it all to be a bit sham - if you detect a radar, and slow down, surely you have acted responsibly, and maybe saved a life.. are they suggesting that it is preferable to issue a ticket, rather than getting you to slow down???
"The Government believes that the sole purpose of detection devices is to allow the drivers that intend to speed do so with impunity. It is their aim to reinstate a prohibition of the use of such devices."
That statement just goes to show how little these people know about the pressures and workload of driving safely and competently.
That statement just goes to show how little these people know about the pressures and workload of driving safely and competently.
Typical changing the goalposts to get their way.
I personally dont care a stuff if its legal or otherwise, im gonna use a detector/jammer come what may.
As for anything that dislcoses the positions of cameras etc, how bout a map?
Would that be illegal too, simply cos its marked with all the positions?
I thought that cameras were for safety, only in accident areas etc, seems that theyre purely for cash after all. Why make a detector illegal otherwise? If all youre after is a cheap nick, then that would appear to be the most logical reason.
One day someone in a senior government position may just say that too, i cant wait.....
Merry Camera everyone...er Christmas i mean...i think?
I personally dont care a stuff if its legal or otherwise, im gonna use a detector/jammer come what may.
As for anything that dislcoses the positions of cameras etc, how bout a map?
Would that be illegal too, simply cos its marked with all the positions?
I thought that cameras were for safety, only in accident areas etc, seems that theyre purely for cash after all. Why make a detector illegal otherwise? If all youre after is a cheap nick, then that would appear to be the most logical reason.
One day someone in a senior government position may just say that too, i cant wait.....
Merry Camera everyone...er Christmas i mean...i think?
they did it here in OZ 
and they have radar-detector-detector vans going round locking onto the PLL that the detector uses.
They confiscate the detector and give you a very hefty fine.
It's even worse if you have a jammer (not that I would have ever made one [with a 100w linear amplifier
)], they take your jammer, car and then a whopping great fine!! My jammer went bye-bye when they started this so now I fly blind 
Trust me, when it's about money the govt can find a way to get it out of you
and they have radar-detector-detector vans going round locking onto the PLL that the detector uses. They confiscate the detector and give you a very hefty fine.
It's even worse if you have a jammer (not that I would have ever made one [with a 100w linear amplifier
)], they take your jammer, car and then a whopping great fine!! My jammer went bye-bye when they started this so now I fly blind Trust me, when it's about money the govt can find a way to get it out of you
zumbruk said: Actually, to be pedantic, GPS receivers are detectable in the same way that radar detectors (and TV sets) are, by detecting the local oscillator leakage back up the antenna.
Err - sorry...
{spod mode}
Apart from the fact that a GPS reciever is effectivly a LNB (it's actually a LNA but who's picking
) for it's RF stage and uses a simple filter stage. It then has a very simple RF decode stage, and as such doesn't really have a PLL decode output (which is what you can detect). Even better is the total operating current for a typical chipset is ~240 micro Amps - and therefore the maximum RF output from it would be even smaller.
You'd have to be pretty dam clever to detect that outside the car!
The latest chipsets do it all on chip with specific RF sheilding around them (to actually stop RF getting in and upsetting them - but they work just as well the other way)
Assuming you could make such a detector then of course every car with sat nav would set it off........
{/spod mode}
J
>> Edited by joust on Wednesday 18th December 18:15
Don't worry about it there was no mention of a bill being put before parliment in the Queens speech so there is not much chance or time of a bill being put before parliament before the next election.This consultation paper was drafted whilst GPS was in its infancy.It is unlikely a bill will include a GPS system as all the companies will do is change the alarm to something like "accident blackspot". Plod will not be able to prove it was being used to detect scameras especially if there are accident blackspots where no scameras are located
The Govt is a shambles they just slightly underestimated their budgets by about a £billion squidlies and they'll get voted back in. Where do you think they are going to make this money up from ? Is TB gonna take a paycut ? Its the first lot I've seen that actually look like Spitting Image puppets..no wonder the show finished. They have promised and lied there way through a good few years and the sad thing is that we dont even have a decent opposition. I've never voted but will this time.. I'm voting Boris Johnson..he loves motors..especially petrol HUNGRY beasts. BJ for Prime Minister. We're fecked already so lets at least enjoy the raods. Whats happened recently ? Hmmm.. the economy is preety shafted. We're about to lose out national identity, Congestion charging, Permit parking (where you buy the permit), speed cameras etc etc etc and more parking attendants in London than Dibble. As they try to bleed us more we find ways to bleed less and they just make more laws to take more. Can you imagine if everyone made a concerted effort to not get a speeding ticket. You'd have thousands of gatso's all costing us tax payers money and no revenue coming in ? What do you think would happen ? Well jut wait for a car stereo tax to curb noise pollution, an A/C tax to curb pollution, a size of wheel tax to curb ermmm...who cares they'll find a way. The simplest thing they could do is have all cars automatically limited. Max speed. 70mph. and the speed get s alterd down like cruise control as you enter different areas..its all wireless..all easy. Thats if it was only safety they were interested in. If you want to cut down on the number of cars why nt abolish car advertising? They did so with cigs.
Rant over. I've always got the angle grinder to fall back on.
Rant over. I've always got the angle grinder to fall back on.
Happy Christmas, everyone!
The link at the top of this thread is interesting. Gov't wants 40% reduction in KSIs by 2010, but KSIs caused by speeding only account for 33% (yes, of course it's actually 6%, or 3%, or something, but let's pass on that for a minute).
So what's going to make up the other 7% once nobody speeds and no accidents are caused by exceeding the national blanket 20mph limit imposed in 2009 to achieve the target? Will someone in power have to reluctantly accept that accidents are actually caused by bad driving, poor road design, pedestrians, etc, etc?
The link at the top of this thread is interesting. Gov't wants 40% reduction in KSIs by 2010, but KSIs caused by speeding only account for 33% (yes, of course it's actually 6%, or 3%, or something, but let's pass on that for a minute).
So what's going to make up the other 7% once nobody speeds and no accidents are caused by exceeding the national blanket 20mph limit imposed in 2009 to achieve the target? Will someone in power have to reluctantly accept that accidents are actually caused by bad driving, poor road design, pedestrians, etc, etc?
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