Dispatches... Channel 4
Discussion
up-the-dubs said:
Just have this on in the background claiming to be an exposé on Ryanair. O'Leary is pi$$ed no-end and I can see why. Something tells me that someone has a bit of a grudge against him and Ryanair. I can't say there has been anything there that is damning in any real bad way.
Nice to see a 'market analyst' stating the bleeding obvious!
Plotloss said:
up-the-dubs said:
Just have this on in the background claiming to be an exposé on Ryanair. O'Leary is pi$$ed no-end and I can see why. Something tells me that someone has a bit of a grudge against him and Ryanair. I can't say there has been anything there that is damning in any real bad way.
Nice to see a 'market analyst' stating the bleeding obvious!
Who me?

up-the-dubs said:
Plotloss said:
up-the-dubs said:
Just have this on in the background claiming to be an exposé on Ryanair. O'Leary is pi$$ed no-end and I can see why. Something tells me that someone has a bit of a grudge against him and Ryanair. I can't say there has been anything there that is damning in any real bad way.
Nice to see a 'market analyst' stating the bleeding obvious!
Who me?
No, chap on the telly with a dicky lip talking about the percentage of cheap flights.
They have obviously targeted the weakest source, every other airline in the UK has a stalwart reputation, but Ryanair is the new butt of jokes after easyjet, such an "expose" that is full of obvious holes would not pass through the proposition stage of programming at C4 if it was focused on another airline. Sick on a seat and delays is sweet FA, runway incursions, which are happening on a daily basis ARE worthy of an entire programme.
thebluemonkey said:
up-the-dubs said:
O'Leary is pi$$ed no-end and I can see why.
Good, the man is an odious littleand I think having senior staff falling asleep, practically untrained personnel onboard and unchecked safety and security is pretty damning.
I don't think so. As the regulator said, they just scrape inside the rules and guidelines imposed by the EU.
Nice of Dispatches to ask for a comment on a programme which they didn't even show to Ryanair. Get the programme on the air, let the public make up their mind and if anything is wrong and Ryanair sues, apologise straight away, damage done.
up-the-dubs said:
The Rté National News is just coming on here with one of the headlines stating that the Irish Aviation Authority are supporting Ryanair in their battle (sic) against C4.
They would wouldn't they ? The Irish airline which has taken over, regulated by them, shown in a bad light. Never !
There have been a couple of worrying incidents on Ryanair flights over the last year or so.
Skavsta Incident
www.aaiu.ie/AAIUviewitem.asp?id=6946&lang=ENG&loc=1652
Rome Incident
www.flightinternational.com/Articles/2006/01/24/Navigation/195/204301/Ryanair+lapse+sparks+safety+spat.html
I am suprised these weren't mentioned.
>> Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 13th February 21:11
Skavsta Incident
www.aaiu.ie/AAIUviewitem.asp?id=6946&lang=ENG&loc=1652
Rome Incident
www.flightinternational.com/Articles/2006/01/24/Navigation/195/204301/Ryanair+lapse+sparks+safety+spat.html
I am suprised these weren't mentioned.
>> Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 13th February 21:11
The programme tried to infer that the pilots were exhausted.
The pilots legally can fly up to 100 hours a month up to a total of 900 hours (a year).
The fact that Ryannair had them flying 99.9 hours a month for nine months of the year (and then having Jan Feb & Mar on the ground, when their is less traffic presumably) looks to me like a good way to run an airline.
They also showed a pilot complaining that Ryannair would run them up to 897 hours - leaving 3 hours available for short notice cover - again I would say that this is good business practice.
No doubt the travel policy has changed at Channel 4 - and the executives are all having to get the cheapest flights. Some fat executive is trying to swing the policy back to BA Business class...
>> Edited by andy 308gtb on Monday 13th February 21:31
The pilots legally can fly up to 100 hours a month up to a total of 900 hours (a year).
The fact that Ryannair had them flying 99.9 hours a month for nine months of the year (and then having Jan Feb & Mar on the ground, when their is less traffic presumably) looks to me like a good way to run an airline.
They also showed a pilot complaining that Ryannair would run them up to 897 hours - leaving 3 hours available for short notice cover - again I would say that this is good business practice.
No doubt the travel policy has changed at Channel 4 - and the executives are all having to get the cheapest flights. Some fat executive is trying to swing the policy back to BA Business class...
>> Edited by andy 308gtb on Monday 13th February 21:31
Tee hee hee! C4 (according to Ryanair so-far) faked a photo of a sleeping crew member! Ryanairs version. The Civil Aviation Authority (UK authority) will not be taking the matter any further either. Not really sure why I care so much, I just really hate these "Tabloid TV", we're out to get you, type programmes.
racingsnake said:
The wheelchair charge is obscene.
Every passenger pays £6.97 for a wheelchair which cost £200 max to be avaliable.
200 passengers = £1394 per flight.
This odious s**t is profiteering on peoples disability.
The other airlines all supply these FOC.
He should be strung up IMHO.
fuel? airport surcharges? tax? security? landing fees? enroute charges? handling fees? staff? maintenance? materials? non operating costs? depreciation?
doesn't leave much from that £1394 does it?
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)and can confidently say, it is definately not exclusive to ryanair, in fact a certain flag carrier is much worse.
and I think having senior staff falling asleep, practically untrained personnel onboard and unchecked safety and security is pretty damning. 