Let's have a good smoking fight.
Discussion
Well, they're voting on this contentious issue in the commons today. I bet they get the fudge through that allows working mens clubs and the commons to still have smoking while Bliar's will is imposed on the rest of the nation.
If you're in favour of a total ban how long do you think it will be before Labour try to ban something that you enjoy?
Non smoking areas, yes. Totalitarian imposition of the will of the state, no. Personally I will ignore any ban on this as it's one step too far IMO.
away.
If you're in favour of a total ban how long do you think it will be before Labour try to ban something that you enjoy?
Non smoking areas, yes. Totalitarian imposition of the will of the state, no. Personally I will ignore any ban on this as it's one step too far IMO.
away.I shouldn't have to come back from a pub with my clothes, hair and lungs fouled up and stench-ridden due to smokers. Non-smoking areas are a joke as smoke does not obey invisible demarkation lines.
There should be NO smoking where food is served. Although why smokers actually go to restaurants when they've
up their taste buds is beyond me.
All smoking in public places should be banned.
Smokers who are so selfish they up their kids lungs should be reported to social services.
is that contentious enough?
There should be NO smoking where food is served. Although why smokers actually go to restaurants when they've
up their taste buds is beyond me. All smoking in public places should be banned.
Smokers who are so selfish they
up their kids lungs should be reported to social services. is that contentious enough?
Personally cannot stand the hypocrisy of any politician telling me what to do.
I gave up last year for my own reasons, and cant say I dont miss it every day, which still opens my eyes to the mental addictive qualities of the horrible beautiful things
However, this seems to be a pathetic wimp out - either the things are very dangerous, in which case stop selling them all together, or back the F&*k off and leave people alone.
I gave up last year for my own reasons, and cant say I dont miss it every day, which still opens my eyes to the mental addictive qualities of the horrible beautiful things
However, this seems to be a pathetic wimp out - either the things are very dangerous, in which case stop selling them all together, or back the F&*k off and leave people alone.
blindswelledrat said:
I agree entirely wiv wot u said there.
Banning things that the majority don't like stops us being a free country!
Provision of non-smoking areas is a happy medium!
If it is the banning of things the majority don't like then would be better to provide smoking areas rather than non smoking areas. This way the majority get the better areas, and the minority don't.
But with government stating you must not, and enforcing draconian rules, hmm might have to start to smoke.
BliarOut said:
If you're in favour of a total ban how long do you think it will be before Labour try to ban something that you enjoy?
What do you mean by try??
So far my list of what they already done includes;
> spending (how much more tax do you pay now versus 10 years ago?
> Spirited driving (Scameras - need I say more)
> Fox hunting (I didn't actually partake, but seeing the hunt running through the countryside was always enjoyable)
And on the horizon;
> Smoking
> Shooting
> Fishing
WHere will it end??
If the government truly have the health of the nation at heart why not ban smoking completely - full stop - no more smoking in the uk.
A while ago the government banned creosote as it was found that there was a risk it was carconogenic.
Now the government know that smoking is carconogenic so why not ban that too?
A while ago the government banned creosote as it was found that there was a risk it was carconogenic.
Now the government know that smoking is carconogenic so why not ban that too?
Code Monkey said:
I'm offended Perhaps the government could ban posting without a spell checker
water good I deer.
Isn't that supposed to be Gud?
No, because I used a spell checker so it was all spelt correctly.
(You know you may as well give up when you have to start explaining your jokes!).
Yugguy said:
Non-smoking areas are a joke as smoke does not obey invisible demarkation lines.
There should be NO smoking where food is served.
Good point - but it is possible......
[engineermode] To create a proper smoking area that didn't impact on the rest of the pub/restraunt etc. they would need to invest in proper ventilation/extract systems - not the crappy wall fans they have at the moment (and can you see them doing that???).[/engineermode]
Chris
Code Monkey said:
If it is the banning of things the majority don't like then would be better to provide smoking areas rather than non smoking areas. This way the majority get the better areas, and the minority don't.
But with government stating you must not, and enforcing draconian rules, hmm might have to start to smoke.
I think Code Monkey has hit the nail on the head here. As a smoker I understand that smokey working environments and socialising places are an issue. Rather than provision of non-smoking areas, how about a move towards designated smoking areas. Put us smokers in the minority in terms of space in pubs (after all we are in the minority in terms of population)
In restaurants, I don't smoke and really don't like others around me smoking when I am eating so my personal preference would be to remove all smoking from eating places but that is my view and I wouldn't want to impose it by force on anyone who wants to have a ciggarette between courses, simply move the smokers to a small area away from the non smokers.
The real issue for me here isn't the smoking debate. It could be a whole host of other things. What really gets to me is the endless line of committees and politicains imposing their will on me and telling me what I can and can't do and when I can and can't do it.
The overwhelming majority of the populus have enough matter between their ears to be able to make the right decision without being told what to think. The problem is with those who don't have that ability. Unfortunately it seems that in an attempt to control those who can't see right from wrong, see logic or reason, the rest of us have to suffer. Bans on this, restrictions on that, ID card the other, all to reign in 1% of the population while the other 99% of us are the ones who get the s
y end of the stick. I think most PHers, smokers or otherwise have a problem with that.
And relax......
>> Edited by dougc on Tuesday 14th February 09:40
The thing with smoking is that it's one of those habits that those who don't do it just can't understand. I mean I understand it's an addiction, I just don't understand how it starts. I remember having a puff on a fag (ooh err) years ago just to see what it tasted like and it was the foulest thing I've ever tasted and the thought of paying about 40p a cigarette or whatever it is now to do it again is beyond me.
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