Burning the Union Jack...
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Well over in Basra they are now burning The Union Jack, stamping on it and shouting for the British to get out as a result of The News Of The World's recent story.
Reporters on the ground are saying that three years of effort to work with the locals in a positive way seems to have gone out the window.
Aside from the staggering lack of gratitude for the removal of their hated dictator, it is hard to believe just how counter-productive the NOTW has been. After the debacle in The Mirror, you would think that they might have just handed the tape to the Military Police.
I am all for a free press, but in such a sensitive situation, knowing what the result would be, and that publishing would certainly endanger British soldiers further, it seems incredible that the paper just decided to go ahead and pour fuel on the fire.
Freedom of the press is paramount, but it seems a shame they seem to take no responsibility for their actions.
Reporters on the ground are saying that three years of effort to work with the locals in a positive way seems to have gone out the window.
Aside from the staggering lack of gratitude for the removal of their hated dictator, it is hard to believe just how counter-productive the NOTW has been. After the debacle in The Mirror, you would think that they might have just handed the tape to the Military Police.
I am all for a free press, but in such a sensitive situation, knowing what the result would be, and that publishing would certainly endanger British soldiers further, it seems incredible that the paper just decided to go ahead and pour fuel on the fire.
Freedom of the press is paramount, but it seems a shame they seem to take no responsibility for their actions.
It’s an unfortunate side effect of free speech. I do agree that NOTW has been irresponsible morally.
As for the flag burning, let them do it / ignore it (much like the spelling mistakes, especially as its not there first language), maybe it will keep them occupied instead of lobbing grenades around.
What’s Aljazeera take on this, I’m guessing that they will have amplified the situation?
As for the flag burning, let them do it / ignore it (much like the spelling mistakes, especially as its not there first language), maybe it will keep them occupied instead of lobbing grenades around.
What’s Aljazeera take on this, I’m guessing that they will have amplified the situation?
polus said:
It’s an unfortunate side effect of free speech. I do agree that NOTW has been irresponsible morally.
As for the flag burning, let them do it / ignore it (much like the spelling mistakes, especially as its not there first language), maybe it will keep them occupied instead of lobbing grenades around.
What’s Aljazeera take on this, I’m guessing that they will have amplified the situation?
Saddham is carrying the Koran around with him now as well......oh happy days. It's so gonna go shit shaped.
anonymous said:
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Life just isn't that simple, and that is one of many reasons why we should never have gone there. Was he that hated? Well, I reckon for most Iraqis, as bad as life was under Saddam its probably been worse under the British and Americans. So where does that put us.
And I often think of it this way. What say, way back when, the French and Spanish had invaded Britain and got rid of Henry the Eighth, for our own benefit, would we have been grateful? And had years later Britain returned to home rule, how would we have written history?
heebeegeetee said:
Life just isn't that simple, and that is one of many reasons why we should never have gone there. Was he that hated? Well, I reckon for most Iraqis, as bad as life was under Saddam its probably been worse under the British and Americans. So where does that put us.
I thought he and his regime were brutal murderers who tortured and gassed innocent civilians.
heebeegeetee said:
anonymous said:[redacted]
Life just isn't that simple, and that is one of many reasons why we should never have gone there. Was he that hated? Well, I reckon for most Iraqis, as bad as life was under Saddam its probably been worse under the British and Americans. So where does that put us.
And I often think of it this way. What say, way back when, the French and Spanish had invaded Britain and got rid of Henry the Eighth, for our own benefit, would we have been grateful? And had years later Britain returned to home rule, how would we have written history?
How many families lost loved ones in the initial attacks? Kids with burns and missing limbs. Don’t get me wrong Saddam was a brutal bastard and I think the army is doing an excellent job in an extremely volatile situation but I don’t think there’s much love for western ideals over there. That’s before you factor in the reason we went over there, oil.
Andy Mac said:
Give them a kicking...
If thats what they want, give it to them... we can also remove any work we dod on water pipes, gas pipes, building schools, etc.. Fine, we'll go, and take everything we bought with us.
Damn right, and we should unbomb all the water pipes, gas pipes, buildings, schools etc that we bombed too. And remove all the radiation from the depleted uranium shells and take that with us too. That'll show 'em, the ungrateful b
s.tallbloke said:
Andy Mac said:
Give them a kicking...
If thats what they want, give it to them... we can also remove any work we dod on water pipes, gas pipes, building schools, etc.. Fine, we'll go, and take everything we bought with us.
Damn right, and we should unbomb all the water pipes, gas pipes, buildings, schools etc that we bombed too. And remove all the radiation from the depleted uranium shells and take that with us too. That'll show 'em, the ungrateful bs.
Shortgirl... I have been anti-war from day one, and as such was being sarcastic...
I miss the old information minister who was forced to stand up infront of the worlds press and say stuff like. . .
"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"
"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"
"I blame Al-Jazeera - they are marketing for the Americans!"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
'We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back."
"Surrender or be burned in their tanks."
"No I am not scared and neither should you be!"
"We have them surrounded in their tanks"
Britain "is not worth an old shoe."
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
He was the only good thing about the old regime. I bet even the Iraqis miss him.
"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"
"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"
"I blame Al-Jazeera - they are marketing for the Americans!"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
'We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back."
"Surrender or be burned in their tanks."
"No I am not scared and neither should you be!"
"We have them surrounded in their tanks"
Britain "is not worth an old shoe."
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
He was the only good thing about the old regime. I bet even the Iraqis miss him.
Petrol_noggin said:
matchless said:
Sadam Hussain gassed his own People, how is that any different from Tony Blair Poisoning us with force fed Fluoride then?, ultimately a more Poisonous element?, explain?, what is the difference?
fluoride is good for your teeth, cyanide is bad for your life.
bollox!, it is a Poison just below Mercury and Lead in the table of Toxicity, how is that healthy then?
Petrol_noggin said:
SIMPLE, the flag burning rock throwers burn flags that are made in Preston, the more flags they buy and torch, the more our textile industry is boosted If they choose to buy flags from china, then they just aren't british are they
And those textiles factories in Preston and Keighley employ a lot of good Allah fearing folk..

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If they choose to buy flags from china, then they just aren't british are they 