Abuse in Nightclubs...
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v15ben

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16,231 posts

272 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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I have just returned from what was for the most part an enjoyable night out, few drinks and a good laugh with close friends. However I also have a blood covered lip and very much dented pride. I accidentally nudged a person who was trying to walk past me and he turned round and punched me square in the face. Why do people feel that such violence is necessary? I was highly apologetic and genuinely touched his arm by accident yet within seconds there was a 6 person incident centred on me!
Why do people feel the need to be so violent and is it just another sign of the increase in violence in the country today. I feel more apprehensive about apologising for an accidental touch or nudge now for fear of another bust lip or broken nose!
Has anyone else experienced this and what can be done to avoid such an issue?

rich1231

17,340 posts

291 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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v15ben said:
I have just returned from what was for the most part an enjoyable night out, few drinks and a good laugh with close friends. However I also have a blood covered lip and very much dented pride. I accidentally nudged a person who was trying to walk past me and he turned round and punched me square in the face. Why do people feel that such violence is necessary? I was highly apologetic and genuinely touched his arm by accident yet within seconds there was a 6 person incident centred on me!
Why do people feel the need to be so violent and is it just another sign of the increase in violence in the country today. I feel more apprehensive about apologising for an accidental touch or nudge now for fear of another bust lip or broken nose!
Has anyone else experienced this and what can be done to avoid such an issue?



Sorry to hear this, is so out of order.

what was the outcome in the club though?

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

286 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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I don't bother going to clubs anymore. I'd rather have a nice pub night out, where you can hear the person you are talking to.
Clubs... Too much testosterone, to many 13 year old girls in miniskirts, and too many idiots out for a fight.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

280 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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Sorry to hear of your plight,i tend to see this a lot in my job,driving 7 nights a week.
Dont try for one minute to understand it,you wont,the attitudes of today mixed with alcohol and sometimes drugs are a great recipe for totaly unrational behaviour and some people(if you can call them that)are just so angry that they contribute to making others life hell,dont let this twit affect your courteous behaviour as this is subscribing to what i call the Zombie affect,one of which you met tonight.
He's bitten you but dont let him pass his anger on.

tobeee

1,436 posts

299 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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That's horrible, but unfortunately not unusual. Some people are just like that. Hope it doesn't hurt too much. I presume you didn't get the police involved, but we should all do that really in these situations. It's like paying for insurance but never claiming on it!

I always hated the atmosphere in nightclubs, so spent most of my youth in comedy clubs! Much better for the soul!

LuS1fer

43,561 posts

276 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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It could have been worse, you could have retaliated, been captured on CCTV, arrested and charged with a public order offence. Sadly, in my job, you see so many videos of completely and utterly unprovoked lashing out in public that you give up going out to these places, not that I ever saw the point of nightclubs anyway.

lightstepper

318 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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for this reason I stopped going to nightclubs when I hit 17 ()

Noisy horrible pointless places.

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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lightstepper said:
for this reason I stopped going to nightclubs when I hit 17 ()

Noisy horrible pointless places.


Luckily ive grown out of nightclubs now (26, old git!) - managed to get assaulted by a woman once in doncaster, glass bottle straight to the eye (didnt damage or hurt thankfully), all because i noticed her queue jumping a few hours earlier. There should be a license to drink alcohol or something!

4WD

2,289 posts

262 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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I found there's far too much attitudein the UK, in the south east anyway. The only clubs I ever thought were worth it are in Ibiza, where people are generally out for a good time.

Jaglover

46,841 posts

266 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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Andy Mac said:
I don't bother going to clubs anymore. I'd rather have a nice pub night out, where you can hear the person you are talking to.
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Same here

kentish

15,169 posts

265 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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Bl00dy hell

I hope you are feeling OK, there are some crazy @rseholes around.

When I nearly got a pint glass in my face was the time when I decided I'd stop going to any clubs and that was a long time ago!

It's not just clubs that are risky places to visit, after an evening out I returned home parked my car and walked to my house (where I used to live) and was pounced on by an idiot with a knife who'd been drinking. Fortunatley, I hadn't as I was driving and I left him laying on the pavement, probably wondering what had hit him when he woke up!

Yugguy

10,728 posts

266 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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What we need really is a good World War, get rid of a few of these idiots.

mg6b

6,649 posts

294 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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Have you reported this to police?

I would urge you to do so. There may well be CCTV that will identify the assailant and witnesses. My experience of this type of incident is that CPS always prosecute providing you are willing to support proceedings.

Thugs like this need to be dealt with. This person may well have previous convictions for this type of behaviour. If so he can be dealt with under an ASBC and he can be added to the steadily growing list of those who are banned from clubs and pubs through the pub watch schemes.

This idiot will eventually not be able to enjoy a night out with his friends and be in a position to assault anyone in a club or pub if you make your stand against him!

combover

3,009 posts

258 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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I've worked behind a bar, and even when helping people by rushing around atmlast orders, threats still floated over the bar. I even saw one bloke crawling over the pumps to get at my friend who is a rugby player, just so he could have a go.

The thing you have to remember, is that it is not you, it's them. He's the one who's done himself a disservice. Do you think anyone lokking at what happened with you will look at him and think 'hmmmm he seems like a nice chap, i'll try and chat him up...'?

Combover

RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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Obviously it totally depends on where you go. I was in 'a popular club in Southampton' when I happened to laugh in a silly way as a guy's girlfriend was walking past. The guy rammed me backwards by the neck into the wall and pushed me up into the air (by the neck). Two bouncers were yards away and they didn't do anything. I didn't fight back and the guy dropped me and walked on - he'd made his point. A week later someone jumped the taxi queue outside and a girl put her stilleto heel through the guy's face, killing him instantly.

On the flipside of this, my love of dance music often takes me to a club called Slinky in Bournemouth. This club is frequented by music fans - everyone faces the DJ on the dancefloor, as it is him they're there to see, and the music they're there to listen to and dance to. The only entry code is basically 'no chavs'.. You can chat to almost anyone in there - in fact I think I get involved in about ten random conversations throughout an average night. Whilst you wait at the bar it is normal to chat to the people next to you. I've never seen a fight, or even raised voices. There are lots of places like this around the UK. No idea what makes a club like that though, as Slinky do a night in Bristol so I tried that once. Within five minutes of going in, there was a massive fight...

Depends where you go I guess. Try not to let it put you off nightclubs.

trackcar

6,453 posts

257 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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I don't know about anyone else, but if I was punched to the pont it drew blood I'd be stright over to get myself checked out if you know what I mean .. if the other person is in the habit of hitting every other person he meets there's no telling what might develop

golden rule in fisticuffs : never hit anyone in the mouth, you may end up with more than a bruised hand ...

ohopkins

708 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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You must either go to a shit club in the world be incrediably unlucky. My mates have nicknamed me "Moses" for my approach to crowds.

stone

1,538 posts

278 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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v15ben said:
I have just returned from what was for the most part an enjoyable night out, few drinks and a good laugh with close friends. However I also have a blood covered lip and very much dented pride. I accidentally nudged a person who was trying to walk past me and he turned round and punched me square in the face. Why do people feel that such violence is necessary? I was highly apologetic and genuinely touched his arm by accident yet within seconds there was a 6 person incident centred on me!
Why do people feel the need to be so violent and is it just another sign of the increase in violence in the country today. I feel more apprehensive about apologising for an accidental touch or nudge now for fear of another bust lip or broken nose!
Has anyone else experienced this and what can be done to avoid such an issue?


You did nothing wrong Ben. Very little that you can do to avoid such an issue if someone has got it in them that they are going to punch someone that night. Put it down to experience. There are idiots everywhere.

>> Edited by stone on Wednesday 15th February 09:45

cazzer

8,883 posts

279 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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Lets ban beer

slapmatt

1,132 posts

253 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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ZR1cliff said:
Sorry to hear of your plight,i tend to see this a lot in my job,driving 7 nights a week.
Dont try for one minute to understand it,you wont,the attitudes of today mixed with alcohol and sometimes drugs are a great recipe for totaly unrational behaviour

Excuse me - please don't tar drugs with the same brush as alcohol.

See the post re: Slinky in Bournemouth.

I also find that the quality of the club is inversely proportional to the strictness of it's dress code - ie. the best clubs are the ones where you can turn up in trainers and a t-shirt. Clubs that demand shoes and a shirt are best avoided in my book.