good news I hope.
Discussion
Marki said:
It should be but the media keep dredging up the extremists for joint interviews with moderate Muslims and unfortunatly the extremist guy (can not remember his name) is an excellent talker , still i guess thats his speciality
thats always been one of the biggest problems.
Again..I cant see why the media keep doing it. Perhaps an answer is that some of them want to create hatred and fear.
Does it sell more papers?? who knows.
Sadly the MCB, whilst it is getting a bit more media savvy, still has its fair share of toupe wearing, heavily accented, old farts who quite frankly make me cringe and laugh whenever they open their gobs. There are a couple of younger guys who come across better, but I reckon they could do with a professional PR company.
I wish i could remember the name of the 2 guys Sky had up on Saturday morning , the mod seems a nice enought guy but to polite and he let the extremist Loon walk all over him by him being too reasonable , the extremist dude however is kind of queering his own pitch as he talks very well but his total rudeness as in ranting when the other guy is trying to reply gives his game away i guess
looks like a bit of good news.
FWIW I think the media *tend* to highlight and emphasise all the bad stuff (and ignore/ place less emphasis on good news)
.... whether thats the car-bombings or beatings-up in Iraq ....... or the Extremists' views and actions in the UK .
Most of the development / reconstruction work in Iraq goes unreported as does much of the "moderate" view in the UK.
FWIW I think the media *tend* to highlight and emphasise all the bad stuff (and ignore/ place less emphasis on good news)
.... whether thats the car-bombings or beatings-up in Iraq ....... or the Extremists' views and actions in the UK .
Most of the development / reconstruction work in Iraq goes unreported as does much of the "moderate" view in the UK.
alfaman said:
looks like a bit of good news.
FWIW I think the media *tend* to highlight and emphasise all the bad stuff (and ignore/ place less emphasis on good news)
.... whether thats the car-bombings or beatings-up in Iraq ....... or the Extremists' views and actions in the UK .
Most of the development / reconstruction work in Iraq goes unreported as does much of the "moderate" view in the UK.
I agree, I also have been quite disgusted at the way the media have manipulated people's feelings to such an extent that it has cost lives as a direct result; they than hide under the 'freedom of speech' mantra, but its not freedom of speech if it's totally bias and written in such a way as to make certain people kill each other because of it! What a sorry state to be in, in 2006, where media moguls can call seemingly all the shots with virtually no comeback on them whatsoever. I hope that one day enough people will wake up to the fact that we are inhabiting the same planet and are not lemmings!
chris watton said:
I agree, I also have been quite disgusted at the way the media have manipulated people's feelings to such an extent that it has cost lives as a direct result; they than hide under the 'freedom of speech' mantra, but its not freedom of speech if it's totally bias and written in such a way as to make certain people kill each other because of it! What a sorry state to be in, in 2006, where media moguls can call seemingly all the shots with virtually no comeback on them whatsoever. I hope that one day enough people will wake up to the fact that we are inhabiting the same planet and are not lemmings!
Quite right. The media have a lot to answer to, and I see today, the Australian media has now resurrected the Abu Ghraib scandal, with more photos/films, of brutality on an unprecedented scale. All in the public interest they say. Who in the public does it benefit? Certainly not the soldiers in Iraq. Not the Iraqi public, who are still angered by the scandal, so publishing pictures of a 2 year old story is certainly not in the public interest, now.
On topic, I would say that the chap referred to in this article, Hamza Yousuf, is a fantastic speaker and a great advert for Islam, and I would urge you all to listen to one of his speeches, which provides a more accurate reflection of moderate Islam.
968 said:
Quite right. The media have a lot to answer to, and I see today, the Australian media has now resurrected the Abu Ghraib scandal, with more photos/films, of brutality on an unprecedented scale. All in the public interest they say. Who in the public does it benefit?
I have also just seen this and i did wonder the exact same thing
Marki said:
Quite right. The media have a lot to answer to, and I see today, the Australian media has now resurrected the Abu Ghraib scandal, with more photos/films, of brutality on an unprecedented scale. All in the public interest they say. Who in the public does it benefit?
I have also just seen this and i did wonder the exact same thing
It's just sensationalist bollox. Really, they must have thought, "wow, nasty pics, we could get a bit of coverage and cash out of these. Never mind the grunts on the ground......." But I would suggest, that free speech will be used as an excuse, again, for this.
968 said:
It's just sensationalist bollox. Really, they must have thought, "wow, nasty pics, we could get a bit of coverage and cash out of these. Never mind the grunts on the ground......." But I would suggest, that free speech will be used as an excuse, again, for this.
On that we agree 968
I was watching channel 4 news while at the gym and thought what a load of nonsense this 'new' story is. So they found some pictures they hadn't seen before, some of which had the same old faces in, and this is news how exactly.
I can remember when Channel 4 news was the last serious news programme left and now it is going to the dogs
scorp said:
Well i supose the Abu Gharib pics are old news now and not worth much ,,but then with the video of the Brits beating the kids up it suddenly becomes a "story" again
Well i'd say its pretty remarkable, wouldn't you?
Err what exactly are you reffering to as remarkable
Marki said:
Well i supose the Abu Gharib pics are old news now and not worth much ,,but then with the video of the Brits beating the kids up it suddenly becomes a "story" again
Well i'd say its pretty remarkable, wouldn't you?
Err what exactly are you reffering to as remarkable
The "story", your making out as if the whole issue is irrelevant and thereby implying it is not in the publics interest, funny, because i could swear it sells more papers
scorp said:
Well i supose the Abu Gharib pics are old news now and not worth much ,,but then with the video of the Brits beating the kids up it suddenly becomes a "story" again
Well i'd say its pretty remarkable, wouldn't you?
Err what exactly are you reffering to as remarkable
The "story", your making out as if the whole issue is irrelevant and thereby implying it is not in the publics interest, funny, because i could swear it sells more papers
So you think something that happend 2 years ago is relevant , and that this whole story is worth revisiting
scorp said:
What is a relevant about a few pictures that weren't published last time round?
The fact they were censored in the first place, its going to pique peoples interests. Or do we still believe the media has an hidden agenda?
Perhaps they were saved, so two 'stories' could be created from one event. The news organisations insult our intelligence by pretending this is 'news'
Jaglover said:
What is a relevant about a few pictures that weren't published last time round?
The fact they were censored in the first place, its going to pique peoples interests. Or do we still believe the media has an hidden agenda?
Perhaps they were saved, so two 'stories' could be created from one event. The news organisations insult our intelligence by pretending this is 'news'
ahhh i see ,, yes you have a point it is coinsidence that the 2 "news storys" are released on us so close together Gassing Station | The Pie & Piston Archive | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff