RE: Bashir Nicked for 60 in a 30
Wednesday 18th December 2002
Bashir Nicked for 60 in a 30
TV journo convicted for driving at double the speed limit
Discussion
...and what about the kid setting fire to Bashir's property and theatening his family? This was must have been more than just childish bullying. If it was reported to the police it should have been taken into account...
... surley
An upstanding member of society forced to break the law to protect his family from what that same SPC should have be out stopping, instead of waving his hairdryer around.
Bloody Usless!
I can see that the judge would have had to have been seen not to be too lenient as Mr Bashir is in the public eye, but this seems unduly harsh. Especially as he came clean.
Mouse
... surley
An upstanding member of society forced to break the law to protect his family from what that same SPC should have be out stopping, instead of waving his hairdryer around.
Bloody Usless!
I can see that the judge would have had to have been seen not to be too lenient as Mr Bashir is in the public eye, but this seems unduly harsh. Especially as he came clean.
Mouse
"I acknowledge that someone setting fire to my children (OK, slight exaggeration) is an inadequate reason to speed.
Yeah.
K then.
Better approach.
"
I don't give a 
about the lentil munchers screaming blue murder and save the children. You can take your children and stick em up your , my family is in danger and as 
are so busy these days I'll protect them myself!
If this involves doing a speed I decide to be safe which disagrees with a random speed limit so be it."
The more switched on amongst you may deduce that P*Ting has failed a major exam today and is in a less than splendid mood
Yeah.
K then.
Better approach.
"
I don't give a about the lentil munchers screaming blue murder and save the children. You can take your children and stick em up your , my family is in danger and as are so busy these days I'll protect them myself! If this involves doing a speed I decide to be safe which disagrees with a random
speed limit so be it." The more switched on amongst you may deduce that P*Ting has failed a major exam today and is in a less than splendid mood
Its good to see the law working on the people that doo wrong even if there in the public eye.
But what a good excuse that sisnt work
This man is a very narrow minded person, not giving any thought to the others that he put at risk, makee him pay
If that were you or I we wold be hit big time for it.
But what a good excuse that sisnt work
This man is a very narrow minded person, not giving any thought to the others that he put at risk, makee him pay
If that were you or I we wold be hit big time for it.
Classic evidence of Police disinterest ...
I manage a department that delivers a valuabvle commodity. We catch a crew stealing sadi valuable commodity. Bang to rights with video evidence.
Interview them. Story so full of holes its a joke (interview conducted by area security manager who is an ex copper)
Police not interested in the slightest.
One crew member then arrives on site as we have suspended his wages until an invoice is raised and paid for the goods stolen via his contractor.
He then threatens my female Transport Manager with physical violence in a very menacing manner.
We report this to the Police and their response was "if something happens again please call 999" !!!!!
That'll be after someone is injured lying on the floor and the rest of us have kicked the crap out of them . Undoubtedly we would then be prosecuted for it and end up as the guilty party.
Easy to catch speeders, difficult to catch real crime or even prevent it !
I manage a department that delivers a valuabvle commodity. We catch a crew stealing sadi valuable commodity. Bang to rights with video evidence.
Interview them. Story so full of holes its a joke (interview conducted by area security manager who is an ex copper)
Police not interested in the slightest.
One crew member then arrives on site as we have suspended his wages until an invoice is raised and paid for the goods stolen via his contractor.
He then threatens my female Transport Manager with physical violence in a very menacing manner.
We report this to the Police and their response was "if something happens again please call 999" !!!!!
That'll be after someone is injured lying on the floor and the rest of us have kicked the crap out of them . Undoubtedly we would then be prosecuted for it and end up as the guilty party.
Easy to catch speeders, difficult to catch real crime or even prevent it !
My point exactly. The police these days are all but useless. Myself and some friends had to call them WRT some stolen bikes, and were told to 'handle it ourselves'.
Great isnt it.
Says a lot how there's dedicated traffic wardens, traffic patrol cops and no end of normal plod driving round in pandas all of whom can pull over & piss off motorists, but you'll never see one when your property, or indeed life is at risk.
Great isnt it.
Says a lot how there's dedicated traffic wardens, traffic patrol cops and no end of normal plod driving round in pandas all of whom can pull over & piss off motorists, but you'll never see one when your property, or indeed life is at risk.
I tend be of the opinion on this one that he got away with a ban at the expense of dragging his family through, probably, unwanted publicity. Next he'll try throwing the car keys at the wife when he's followed home after a drink 
. Actually puts him a bit lower on the scale of humanity than a MP IMHO .
I would have thought a car with flashing blues would be pushing it on most 30 limit roads, let alone a journo.
A result for an expensive brief, equal justice for all, not.
Harry
. Actually puts him a bit lower on the scale of humanity than a MP IMHO . I would have thought a car with flashing blues would be pushing it on most 30 limit roads, let alone a journo
. A result for an expensive brief, equal justice for all, not.
Harry
I think where he got it wrong was acknowledging that the reason was not sufficient to justify the speed.
He should have said 'Of course the speed was fücking necessary m'laud. BIB were not interested in possible arson and GBH, so I had to protect my family myself. May I respectfully ask what fücking planet m'laud is living on?"
Or something along those lines.
He should have said 'Of course the speed was fücking necessary m'laud. BIB were not interested in possible arson and GBH, so I had to protect my family myself. May I respectfully ask what fücking planet m'laud is living on?"
Or something along those lines.
hmm... if you've driven much round Basingstoke, you'll realise that there are many 30 areas which are ripe for 60mph or more without causing undue danger to anyone given a duly observant driver. Don't be so quick to condemn and for chrissakes spare us the Thinkofthechildrenisms.
sp60 said: so he's more than happy to put other people's children in danger by driving at double the speed limit. That sounds like a bullshit excuse, conjoured up by an expensive lawyer, designed to avoid a ban. Well done, it worked.
It ain't the fault of the police though - it's the Government.. with their targets, political correctness, MacPherson report, affirmative action employment policies, special initiatives and empty PR driven promises on crime & punishment.
P*Ting said: My point exactly. The police these days are all but useless. Myself and some friends had to call them WRT some stolen bikes, and were told to 'handle it ourselves'.
Great isnt it.
Says a lot how there's dedicated traffic wardens, traffic patrol cops and no end of normal plod driving round in pandas all of whom can pull over & piss off motorists, but you'll never see one when your property, or indeed life is at risk.
The Met is stretched way way way beyond breaking point. Whole tranches of London are practically lawless & It's been every man for himself for some time now.
CarZee said:hmm... if you've driven much round Basingstoke, you'll realise that there are many 30 areas which are ripe for 60mph or more without causing undue danger to anyone given a duly observant driver. Don't be so quick to condemn and for chrissakes spare us the Thinkofthechildrenisms.
sp60 said: so he's more than happy to put other people's children in danger by driving at double the speed limit. That sounds like a bullshit excuse, conjoured up by an expensive lawyer, designed to avoid a ban. Well done, it worked.
So, CarZee, do you know which of our collection of fine and well-maintained roads he was actually on where he was stopped?
I don't, no. I was merely pointing out that (as we both know) there are a lot of non-30 30 roads (IYSWIM) in Basingstoke, where you've got to be in a Sinclair C5 to resist exceeding the limit and it's not reasonable therefore to assert that Mr Bashir was necessarily putting anyone's ikkle kiddlies at risk.
whatever said:So, CarZee, do you know which of our collection of fine and well-maintained roads he was actually on where he was stopped?
CarZee said:I don't, no. I was merely pointing out that (as we both know) there are a lot of non-30 30 roads (IYSWIM) in Basingstoke, where you've got to be in a Sinclair C5 to resist exceeding the limit and it's not reasonable therefore to assert that Mr Bashir was necessarily putting anyone's ikkle kiddlies at risk.
whatever said:So, CarZee, do you know which of our collection of fine and well-maintained roads he was actually on where he was stopped?
Yeah, I know.
I was just in a less-than-charitable mood when I was reading it in the Gazette and didn't give him the benefit of the doubt
Fair enough - after all, he's famous so he deserves everything he gets..
whatever said:I was just in a less-than-charitable mood when I was reading it in the Gazette and didn't give him the benefit of the doubt
Hang on... No, actually, he drives a Megane so he deserves everything he gets.
It would be interesting to know where they're planting these pretend plods with the hairdryers...
why do celebs allways have some bullsit excuse, and why do judges believe them?
Although we don't know which road it was, I think 60 in a 30 zone is unnaceptable. I don't think "enthusiastic drives" are arguing to be able to drive fast everywhere, just where it's safe, like dual carraigeways etc.
The anti speed lobby think we all want to drive through residential areas at 60+, but we want to drive safely, at safe speeds, as the conditions allow, which can mean 150 on a dry empty motorway, or 80 on a good clear B road.
Although we don't know which road it was, I think 60 in a 30 zone is unnaceptable. I don't think "enthusiastic drives" are arguing to be able to drive fast everywhere, just where it's safe, like dual carraigeways etc.
The anti speed lobby think we all want to drive through residential areas at 60+, but we want to drive safely, at safe speeds, as the conditions allow, which can mean 150 on a dry empty motorway, or 80 on a good clear B road.
Perhaps you haven't noticed all those dual carriageways that now have 40 limits on them.
There is a now a main A road (country road) that has gone from 60 to 50 to 40 and even 30 in a couple of places near me.
It really is nearly impossible to drive that slowly, on a big wide road with good visibility.
B
There is a now a main A road (country road) that has gone from 60 to 50 to 40 and even 30 in a couple of places near me.
It really is nearly impossible to drive that slowly, on a big wide road with good visibility.
B
I'm now going to say again what I said above. Listen carefully.
guydw said: Although we don't know which road it was, I think 60 in a 30 zone is unnaceptable. I don't think "enthusiastic drives" are arguing to be able to drive fast everywhere, just where it's safe, like dual carraigeways etc.
There are plenty of roads around Basingstoke which are 30 limits yet are quite safe at 60mph. If you've not seen the sort of roads I'm talking about, you're making unwarranted assumptions.
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