Fitting blinds into a stud wall...
Fitting blinds into a stud wall...
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paulie-mafia

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3,321 posts

254 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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OK I have a problem.. I put blinds up over the windows in my flat a year or so ago and one of them (covering a french door), has started to pull itself out of the wall. I need to know how I can re-attach the mounting brackets in the same place (if I move them further down the wall the top of the blinds won't sit at the same height as the others). The following has to be taken into consideration:

- Stud walls - not the best of carrying a lot of mass
- Brackets - the blinds are held in place by 4 small metal brackets which screw into the wall. Isuue here is they each take 2-4 screws, but they're all really close together making it impossible to use those special plugs for stud walls.

Anybody got a good idea before the whole lot comes crashing down?!

Cheers

z4monster

1,442 posts

291 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Attach a batten of wood across the wall and screw into that. The wood can be fixed firmer and also glued with No Nails so it is rock solid. Alternatively, used the nonails like cement and inject it inot the wall around the existing screws. Once set it's pretty rock solid anyway and should hold it all together. Bodge it!

bluespanner

3,383 posts

254 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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what about those butterfly jobs that open up as you tighten?

JoolzB

3,549 posts

280 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Are you sure they're stud walls? Seems strange for an external wall? If it is you can get some special raw plugs that spread the load over a larger area behind the p'board, screwfix do some but no doubt your loacl b&q will do too.

edited to add :

>> Edited by JoolzB on Friday 17th February 21:10

paulie-mafia

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Friday 17th February 2006
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Yeah both sound like good ideas to me. Butterfly screws might work, but the holes in the mounting brackets are so close together that I could end up pulling a chunk of plasterboard out of the wall once they're all in!

Edited to add - Yup, the outer wall is brick, then there's an insulated cavity, then the plasterboard

>> Edited by paulie-mafia on Friday 17th February 21:10

bluespanner

3,383 posts

254 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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then why not just some really long rawl plugs, and get into the brick?

JoolzB

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280 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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paulie-mafia said:
Yup, the outer wall is brick, then there's an insulated cavity, then the plasterboard

Ok well why not fill the hole with Polyfiller push a normal raw plug in whilst the filler is still wet, let it all dry out and use a longer screw?

>> Edited by JoolzB on Friday 17th February 21:17

paulie-mafia

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Friday 17th February 2006
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bluespanner said:
then why not just some really long rawl plugs, and get into the brick?


Not sure where the drill would end up - in the brick or in the steel beam propping the whole lot up!

I reckon those plastic butterfly plugs could well be the ticket!

Cheers fellas!

JoolzB

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280 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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paulie-mafia said:
bluespanner said:
then why not just some really long rawl plugs, and get into the brick?


Not sure where the drill would end up - in the brick or in the steel beam propping the whole lot up!

I reckon those plastic butterfly plugs could well be the ticket!

Cheers fellas!

The butterflies will only open up if there's a gap which I doubt there is, well maybe a couple of mil so prob not gonna work properly.

bluespanner

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Friday 17th February 2006
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JoolzB said:
paulie-mafia said:
bluespanner said:
then why not just some really long rawl plugs, and get into the brick?


Not sure where the drill would end up - in the brick or in the steel beam propping the whole lot up!

I reckon those plastic butterfly plugs could well be the ticket!

Cheers fellas!

The butterflies will only open up if there's a gap which I doubt there is, well maybe a couple of mil so prob not gonna work properly.


behind the plasterboard will be a gap big enough for butterfly screws, wether the plasterboars is dabbed or battened on.

jules_s

5,289 posts

264 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Ive no idea how to link to websites/photos on here...but i'll have a go



The ones on the left are the way forward for you mate

bluespanner

3,383 posts

254 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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how the hell is a miniature helter-skelter going to help paul? damn stoners...




good idea.

paulie-mafia

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Friday 17th February 2006
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lol, i'll give em a go when i've finished watching 'don't be a menace'

jules_s

5,289 posts

264 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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gLOL

Not sure whether the above is taking the p*ss, but im no troll. Just cos I dont post here much (usually on vx220.org) doesnt mean I dont know what im talking about. Sounds to me like your house/flat is drylined (like mine) and that is the only fixing ive ever managed to use successfuly

paulie-mafia

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Saturday 18th February 2006
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jules_s said:
gLOL

Not sure whether the above is taking the p*ss, but im no troll. Just cos I dont post here much (usually on vx220.org) doesnt mean I dont know what im talking about. Sounds to me like your house/flat is drylined (like mine) and that is the only fixing ive ever managed to use successfuly



obi

308 posts

311 months

Saturday 18th February 2006
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z4monster said:
Attach a batten of wood across the wall and screw into that. The wood can be fixed firmer and also glued with No Nails so it is rock solid.


Had the same problems with the dry lined walls, tried every type of fixing (wished i'd bought shares in DIY companies) and eventually they all worked loose...

Put up some 2x1 and fixed to walls with screws and nonails and then attached all fittings to batten, works a treat now up in every room in the house....