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Anyone seen this? I know it's been out for a while so the thread's probably been and gone, but never mind.
I thought it was brilliant. However, it was a victim of its own coolness. I mean, you've got really weighty subject matter (terrorism, the Isreal-Palestine conflict), and yet the way it's filmed - soft-focus, quiet, lots of glamorous European locations and cool cars, Cold War international intrigue - made it more like Martin Buckley's dream-world than the sobering Schindler's-List-for-the-'70s it was perhaps supposed to be.
I mean, yes, you've got a bunch of terrorists brutally murdering people, but their Paris contact swans about in a Citroen DS with Edith Piaff on the 8-track, and the main character spends a lot of time eyeing up a gloriously modernist Poggenpohl show kitchen. It played more like The Odessa File than something inspired by Newsnight.
I thought it was brilliant. However, it was a victim of its own coolness. I mean, you've got really weighty subject matter (terrorism, the Isreal-Palestine conflict), and yet the way it's filmed - soft-focus, quiet, lots of glamorous European locations and cool cars, Cold War international intrigue - made it more like Martin Buckley's dream-world than the sobering Schindler's-List-for-the-'70s it was perhaps supposed to be.
I mean, yes, you've got a bunch of terrorists brutally murdering people, but their Paris contact swans about in a Citroen DS with Edith Piaff on the 8-track, and the main character spends a lot of time eyeing up a gloriously modernist Poggenpohl show kitchen. It played more like The Odessa File than something inspired by Newsnight.
I thought it was a fantastic film too.
I knew nothing about what happened at the Munich Olympics, so it was educational to me, as I'm sure it is to a few others. It was shot in quite a surreal way in many places, which I found effective. There's a few sub-stories, so I would enjoy watching it again.
I knew nothing about what happened at the Munich Olympics, so it was educational to me, as I'm sure it is to a few others. It was shot in quite a surreal way in many places, which I found effective. There's a few sub-stories, so I would enjoy watching it again.
up-the-dubs said:
Raify said:
I thought it was good, but far too long. Can't anyone tell a story in 90 minutes anymore?
I was very surprised when it was over and I looked at my watch. I didn't feel the time at all.
Very good film. Maybe a little too brutal at times but an excellent film all the same.
Yes, heavy going in some places, and I found the killing of the 'Dutch woman' very disturbing to watch, bit 'too' realistic! If you know what I mean!
I havent seen this yet, however a few of the more highbrow reviews have been heavily critical of it, comparing it to Oliver Stones JFK, in that folks will think that they now know all about what happened, as if they had just watched a documentary instead of a fictional story that is next to useless as a history lesson. JFK annoyed me because the only bit that was true was the President got shot, this will probably annoy me too, must get to see it soon.
Balmoral Green said:
I havent seen this yet, however a few of the more highbrow reviews have been heavily critical of it, comparing it to Oliver Stones JFK, in that folks will think that they now know all about what happened, as if they had just watched a documentary instead of a fictional story that is next to useless as a history lesson. JFK annoyed me because the only bit that was true was the President got shot, this will probably annoy me too, must get to see it soon.
It is, it will and you should
.I thought it was excellent and very powerful. Not since I was a kid and I watched my first 18 film when mummy and daddy were out shopping have I been so shocked - I just couldn't stop thinking about it. You really felt like you were involved, especially during the hostage scenes.
The ending did drag on a bit too long which was a shame because if it had been tied off a little neater then this would probably be one of my top 10 favourite films.
The ending did drag on a bit too long which was a shame because if it had been tied off a little neater then this would probably be one of my top 10 favourite films.
An excellent film, only stopping short of being a masterpiece because it appears to lack an ending.
Superbly shot, and the "coolness" factor was right up there with Ocean's 11. The moral tale is very clear, and even the cliche'd shots are done very well. Eric Bana's rapidly turning into one of my favourite actors - all the weirder for me, as most of you won't remember him as a small-time comic actor in Rob Stich productions back in Oz.
Plenty of factual issues, but I guess it probably wasn't made clear enough that it was a fictional piece, "inspired" by the events rather than a record of them. But then, there's always going to be plenty of idiots that believe whatever they see on celluloid.
Superbly shot, and the "coolness" factor was right up there with Ocean's 11. The moral tale is very clear, and even the cliche'd shots are done very well. Eric Bana's rapidly turning into one of my favourite actors - all the weirder for me, as most of you won't remember him as a small-time comic actor in Rob Stich productions back in Oz.
Plenty of factual issues, but I guess it probably wasn't made clear enough that it was a fictional piece, "inspired" by the events rather than a record of them. But then, there's always going to be plenty of idiots that believe whatever they see on celluloid.
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