Labours "Abolition of Parliament Bill"
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Extraordinary, whilst the press was busily occpied with the high profile ID cards bill it seems that a bill called the "Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill" slipped through parliament unchallenged and hardly debated. Which effectively will give Government ministers the direct power, without parlimentary scrutiny to change any existing law at will.
To quote the article "It gives ministers power to alter any law passed by Parliament. The only limitations are that new crimes cannot be created if the penalty is greater than two years in prison and that it cannot increase taxation. But any other law can be changed, no matter how important. All ministers will have to do is propose an order, wait a few weeks and, voilà, the law is changed."
"Just as a perfect criminal statute for ministers appears to be one in which everything is illegal so that prosecutors have discretion to put anyone in front of a court, a perfect authorising statute is one that makes lawful any ministerial act or policy. "
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2049791,00.html
Oh well last one out remember to pay the gas bill
To quote the article "It gives ministers power to alter any law passed by Parliament. The only limitations are that new crimes cannot be created if the penalty is greater than two years in prison and that it cannot increase taxation. But any other law can be changed, no matter how important. All ministers will have to do is propose an order, wait a few weeks and, voilà, the law is changed."
"Just as a perfect criminal statute for ministers appears to be one in which everything is illegal so that prosecutors have discretion to put anyone in front of a court, a perfect authorising statute is one that makes lawful any ministerial act or policy. "
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2049791,00.html
Oh well last one out remember to pay the gas bill
timmy30 said:
Extraordinary, whilst the press was busily occpied with the high profile ID cards bill it seems that a bill called the "Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill" slipped through parliament unchallenged and hardly debated. Which effectively will give Government ministers the direct power, without parlimentary scrutiny to change any existing law at will.
To quote the article "It gives ministers power to alter any law passed by Parliament. The only limitations are that new crimes cannot be created if the penalty is greater than two years in prison and that it cannot increase taxation. But any other law can be changed, no matter how important. All ministers will have to do is propose an order, wait a few weeks and, voilà, the law is changed."
"Just as a perfect criminal statute for ministers appears to be one in which everything is illegal so that prosecutors have discretion to put anyone in front of a court, a perfect authorising statute is one that makes lawful any ministerial act or policy. "
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2049791,00.html
Oh well last one out remember to pay the gas bill
Spooky, didnt Hitler enact almost the exact same legislation in the 1930's?
like this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling
>> Edited by scorp on Tuesday 21st February 16:16
>> Edited by scorp on Tuesday 21st February 16:16
s2art said:
Extraordinary, whilst the press was busily occpied with the high profile ID cards bill it seems that a bill called the "Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill" slipped through parliament unchallenged and hardly debated. Which effectively will give Government ministers the direct power, without parlimentary scrutiny to change any existing law at will.
To quote the article "It gives ministers power to alter any law passed by Parliament. The only limitations are that new crimes cannot be created if the penalty is greater than two years in prison and that it cannot increase taxation. But any other law can be changed, no matter how important. All ministers will have to do is propose an order, wait a few weeks and, voilà, the law is changed."
"Just as a perfect criminal statute for ministers appears to be one in which everything is illegal so that prosecutors have discretion to put anyone in front of a court, a perfect authorising statute is one that makes lawful any ministerial act or policy. "
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2049791,00.html
Oh well last one out remember to pay the gas bill
Spooky, didnt Hitler enact almost the exact same legislation in the 1930's?
Yes he did, that was after he dismantled the 'independent judiciary'; something Blair did just a few years ago.
This is actually quite disturbing. A fundamental precept of English law is the certainty of statute, and the devolution of lawmaking facilities (at least at the highest level) to the Legislative and Judiciary. The idea of the Ec=xecutive making law is completely at odds with the core idea of English democracy.
I can't bvelieve that this has not been reported more widely. Shall have to go and do some reading up...
I can't bvelieve that this has not been reported more widely. Shall have to go and do some reading up...
BBC highlighted the issue rather than just acting as 
dogwatch said:Why has there been absolutely nothing about this in the press?
Labour's "democracy in action"
...And Parliament's democracy inaction....
Our elected representitives are a disgrace whatever your political views. They should have been shouting about this from the rooftops.
Must say there is an alternative hypothesis which needs testing ... it could be that this article is bollox. It seems a little unlikely that one Liberal Democrat MP (the author of the article) was the only Member of Parliament to realise parliamentary democracy was being swept aside last week.
dogwatch said:
Labour's "democracy in action"
...And Parliament's democracy inaction....
Our elected representitives are a disgrace whatever your political views. They should have been shouting about this from the rooftops.
Might be worth mail bombing:-
www.conservatives.com/tile.do?def=democracy.taskforce.page
To ask what the hell they are doing, the lazy tw@s
puggit said:
Labour's "democracy in action"
...And Parliament's democracy inaction....
Our elected representitives are a disgrace whatever your political views. They should have been shouting about this from the rooftops.
Currently it's at the bill stage, the bill was launched to the house last week, it will have to go through the various readings and vote in order to be passed into Law, if it is passed as Law, then in effect it will enable the government to drop all of the consultations currently required before a bill becomes law.
The Times are quite rightly drawing public attention to it now.
What is apalling is that the Government have even thought to propose this, what is terrifying is the way that they have steam rollered the ID cards bill through.
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