Tax on insurance.
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pmanson

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Tuesday 21st February 2006
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Hi,

Trying to finish a uni assignment, can any one tell me what % tax is levied on insurance. I know its exempt of VAT @ 17.5% and the figure i've found for tax is 5% is that correct?


Thanks,

Phill

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 21st February 2006
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Insurance premiums are subject to Insurance Premium Tax (IPT). There are two rates - 17.5% and 5%. I'm not sure to what types of policies the two rates of tax relate.

Unlike VAT, IPT is never recoverable.

pmanson

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Tuesday 21st February 2006
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Eric Mc said:
Insurance premiums are subject to Insurance Premium Tax (IPT). There are two rates - 17.5% and 5%. I'm not sure to what types of policies the two rates of tax relate.

Unlike VAT, IPT is never recoverable.



Thanks Eric, that confims what I thought,

My Assignment said:

9)VAT on all purchases, excluding Insurance, is calculated at 17.5%. All VAT on sales is to be calculated at 17.5%


The assignment is badly worded.


Cheers,

Phill

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Tuesday 21st February 2006
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VAT can also be 5%, & 0%

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The 17.5% IPT was to get round VAT avoidance wheezes.

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There can be scanarios when VAT is levied on insurance too.

I reckon. If insurance is recharged by, say your landlord, then VAT can be levied. But: I'm not 100% sure of that.

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Tuesday 21st February 2006
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The 17.5% is on insured warranties I reckon.

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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
The 17.5% IPT was to get round VAT avoidance wheezes.


In the old days, buy the product for £50, and the warranty for £150 & pay vat on the £50 element only. Was quite common to shift pricing from goods to warranty.

pmanson

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Tuesday 21st February 2006
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The insurance according to the assignment is for:

The assignment said:

Insurance costs covering public liability, property, equipment and fixtures and fittings

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pmanson said:
The insurance according to the assignment is for:

The assignment said:

Insurance costs covering public liability, property, equipment and fixtures and fittings


I reckon that'll be at 5% then.

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 21st February 2006
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IPT relates to genuine "Insurance". VAT is charged on "warranties" and other such guarantee schemes which aren't really insurance in the normal sense.

The official rates of VAT are:

Standard - 17.5%
Zero Rated
5% is charged on some special items such as domestic power
Exempt (which is not the same as "Zero"
Outside the Scope

Insurance is normally described as being "Exempt" for VAT.

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Eric Mc said:
IPT relates to genuine "Insurance". VAT is charged on "warranties" and other such guarantee schemes which aren't really insurance in the normal sense.



Yep, but the 17.5% IPT is on insurance backed warranties. (You said you were unsure above)

Eric Mc

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It gets complicated doesn't it.

Even the VAT authorities aren't always sure what type of insurance "animal" they are looking at.
Quite a few of the large retailers (Dixons, for instance) have had to duke it out with the VAT man over the nature of various guarantee schemes they were offering to customers.

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Tuesday 21st February 2006
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How many VAT rates have there been?

I can remember 8%, 25%, 12.5%, 15%, 17.5% 0%, 5%

Eric Mc

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VAT was introduced in 1973. I started work (in Ireland) in 1976 so between 1976 and 1986 (the year I came to the UK) I am more familiar with the Irish rates.

Britain has one of the simpler VAT systems in Europe (I kid you not).

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Eric Mc said:
VAT was introduced in 1973. I started work (in Ireland) in 1976 so between 1976 and 1986 (the year I came to the UK) I am more familiar with the Irish rates.

Britain has one of the simpler VAT systems in Europe (I kid you not).


I thought in Eire VAT was where one kept one's moonshine!

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 21st February 2006
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Poteen Moonshine is American.

insurance_jon

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Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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travel and engineering policies = 17.5%
all others 5% if bought direct or through a broker.

Vat is charged on all if bought through a vat registered company that isn't a broker or an insurer.