All the fuss about Prince Charles
Discussion
So Prince Charles is a clever chap who gets around the restrictions of his role to make his point.
Well stone me.
I can't wait for tomorrow's breaking news item.
Well stone me.
I can't wait for tomorrow's breaking news item.
TheBleedingObvious said:
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thebluemonkey said:
The old fool should just shut up and realise what an irrelevance he actually is. Does anyone actually care what he has to say ?
Yes in fact I think people do care what he has to say. And to call him an old fool and an irrelevance is to identify yourself as such also...
thebluemonkey said:
The old fool should just shut up and realise what an irrelevance he actually is. Does anyone actually care what he has to say ?
It's quite refreshing to have someone in the public eye actually hold strong, reasoned views and not pander to politically correct rubbish.
hmmm - King Charles and Prime Minister Clarkson would be an "interesting" combination...
ewenm said:
thebluemonkey said:
The old fool should just shut up and realise what an irrelevance he actually is. Does anyone actually care what he has to say ?
It's quite refreshing to have someone in the public eye actually hold strong, reasoned views and not pander to politically correct rubbish.
hmmm - King Charles and Prime Minister Clarkson would be an "interesting" combination...
Yep I agree. We should praise him for NOT just changing his opinions week on week according to what is hot or not.
I'd prefer a strong king, than one that just tags the government and PC lines all day! Even if I didn't agree with it, I'd prefer it... afterall, that is what a democracy is, a right to free speech and opinion!
Dave
thebluemonkey said:
The old fool should just shut up and realise what an irrelevance he actually is. Does anyone actually care what he has to say ?
I care a great deal for what he has to say. Particularly about GM Crops, humane architecture, sustainable farming, The Environment, for example. His Prince's Trust has done more for young people; truly empowering them, than any government training scheme has managed in the last 30 years. Where was the British government when the Chinese premiere was being feted with a lavish banquet, while his government were persecuting Tibetans under martial law. They were all tucking into their 7 course dinners, while their own dragoons were busy arresting (under direct orders from No 10)lawful protesters. Charles?, he was absent from this disgraceful charade; protesting in the only way he could, by simply refusing to grace them with his presence. The only reason Blair is a 'relevance' is because he has managed through, subterfuge, chicanery, lies and illegal acts to wrest executive power from our democratic bellies, and hand it over to the plutocrats in Europe and big business in the markets, with laws and dictates that pervade your's and my life to the point where he has the monopoly on relevance, all this whilst promising you a better future. Given the choice, I know which man I would entrust with stewardship of this country. It would be the altruist and not the lawyer.
He says what he thinkgs; brilliant. How frustrating would it be for Prince Charles to simply go along with whatever current message Labour are trying to pedal to the nation?
I forget the exact quote - someone please help me - but it's along the lines of: "I may not agree with what he has to say, but I will defend to the death his right to say it"
I forget the exact quote - someone please help me - but it's along the lines of: "I may not agree with what he has to say, but I will defend to the death his right to say it"
ewenm said:
It's quite refreshing to have someone in the public eye actually hold strong, reasoned views and not pander to politically correct rubbish.
I think you have missed the point. The fact that his 'strong, reasoned views' made the public eye is what he is upset about. He wanted to restrict his views to a select number of people, and then charge them with never revealing them. Some might believe this is hypocritical on a number of levels.
TonyHetherington said:
He says what he thinkgs; brilliant. How frustrating would it be for Prince Charles to simply go along with whatever current message Labour are trying to pedal to the nation?
I forget the exact quote - someone please help me - but it's along the lines of: "I may not agree with what he has to say, but I will defend to the death his right to say it"
I believe you're paraphrasing M. Voltaire but haven't looked it up. It was quoted on the Irving thread somewhere.
GasBlaster said:
ewenm said:
It's quite refreshing to have someone in the public eye actually hold strong, reasoned views and not pander to politically correct rubbish.
I think you have missed the point. The fact that his 'strong, reasoned views' made the public eye is what he is upset about. He wanted to restrict his views to a select number of people, and then charge them with never revealing them. Some might believe this is hypocritical on a number of levels.
So he's upset that a person he thought had agreed to keep things private has gone to the press. Damn right. I'd be upset too at a breach of trust like that. How's that hypocritical?
ewenm said:
GasBlaster said:
ewenm said:
It's quite refreshing to have someone in the public eye actually hold strong, reasoned views and not pander to politically correct rubbish.
I think you have missed the point. The fact that his 'strong, reasoned views' made the public eye is what he is upset about. He wanted to restrict his views to a select number of people, and then charge them with never revealing them. Some might believe this is hypocritical on a number of levels.
So he's upset that a person he thought had agreed to keep things private has gone to the press. Damn right. I'd be upset too at a breach of trust like that. How's that hypocritical?
Having opposite 'public' and 'private' views is probably why. And trying, but failing, to gag the press probably doesn't help.
TonyHetherington said:
He says what he thinkgs; brilliant. How frustrating would it be for Prince Charles to simply go along with whatever current message Labour are trying to pedal to the nation?
I forget the exact quote - someone please help me - but it's along the lines of: "I may not agree with what he has to say, but I will defend to the death his right to say it"
Churchill said that I think.
ewenm said:
I believe you're paraphrasing M. Voltaire but haven't looked it up. It was quoted on the Irving thread somewhere.
Correct. The quote reads 'I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it'.
Try here for more quotes. -> www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/v/voltaire.html
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