job Dilema: put my head right
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We were recently asked to volunteer for redundancy which I did. I was turned down
because the company says it needs me The only good thing about this job was the continental shifts and the few guys I work with in my team. we will be going onto a 5 day week with a cut in pay snd 2 of the team are leaving. Oh and because this place is a joke I get to do next to no work and can basically surf the internet all day
but I hate the people on the factory floor with a pasion! ignorant, stupid, pathetic children they are. This place is like a big care in the comunity project.
So now if I leave I leave with nothing ( would have got 6k) now 6k is a lot of money to me.
so I have 2 choices stay here because I dont have to work and put up with the fools with less money or
leave and get a new job but I'll have to work and get increased stress levels.
must admit the main reason I have not looked for a job is being pissed off at leaving with nothing. I cant seem to get over that.
what do I do?
When you volunteered for redundancy did they actually say that they need you? If so, and as you don't like the job, go to your boss and say you're leaving unless they can come to some arrangement - what's it worth to you to stay?
The 6k redundancy payout is gone so you need to think about how you can improve your current situation. If they really do need you, they'll do something to keep you. Otherwise they'll say "OK, leave" - you've lost nothing and can move onto better things.
The 6k redundancy payout is gone so you need to think about how you can improve your current situation. If they really do need you, they'll do something to keep you. Otherwise they'll say "OK, leave" - you've lost nothing and can move onto better things.
I've never quite understood the whole idea of voluntary redundancy - surely the only people to volunteer are the good people, who know they'll get another job easily and they are exactly the kind of people a company wants to keep???
To be honest, I bet you get bored silly surfing the Net all day. Wouldn't you rather get some job satisfaction? Having work to do doesn't automatically equal stress too!
To be honest, I bet you get bored silly surfing the Net all day. Wouldn't you rather get some job satisfaction? Having work to do doesn't automatically equal stress too!
PESTY said:
The only good thing about this job was the continental shifts and the few guys I work with in my team. we will be going onto a 5 day week with a cut in pay snd 2 of the team are leaving.
Well, if they "need" you, then you are in a position of "power". Tell them they can stuff their pay cut and change of working conditions otherwise you walk, better still tell them you want a payrise!
Cheeky f
kers!TeamD said:
oh and by the way....
Won't they have to make you redundant if you refuse a change of contract terms?
Not according to our HR department. They apparently have the right to swap our shifts at will.
I have contacted the agency that got me here in the first place and sent them an updated CV.
Forgive the righteous sound of this reply, but if you hate where you are and hate (most) of the people who work there, wouldn't you have left at some point regardless of the redundancy money? IMHO, life is too short to not at least strive to be happy and "we" in the UK are too good at moaning and not doing anything about it.
At the very least, you could look around to see what's out there and who knows, you might find something that you WOULD enjoy. You've got nothing to loose, surely?
At the very least, you could look around to see what's out there and who knows, you might find something that you WOULD enjoy. You've got nothing to loose, surely?
I was in a similar position, although I liked the company before the redundancies, but had a good inkling that 70% redundancy would change the culture a bit 
Applied for voluntary and was turned down so agreed to a wage and working conditions review in 6 months. The review never happened so I left.
I tried to argue more money at the start as they needed me so much, but generally redundancies are made when the company has no money, so it's a difficult thing to get.
However, as others have said, if you don't like it and can't see it getting any better then leave.
Applied for voluntary and was turned down so agreed to a wage and working conditions review in 6 months. The review never happened so I left.
I tried to argue more money at the start as they needed me so much, but generally redundancies are made when the company has no money, so it's a difficult thing to get.
However, as others have said, if you don't like it and can't see it getting any better then leave.
big-max said:
Forgive the righteous sound of this reply, but if you hate where you are and hate (most) of the people who work there, wouldn't you have left at some point regardless of the redundancy money? ?
Yes, I think so which is why Ive just put out my CV.
The main reason I stayed was the conti shift which works really well for me and my partner.
Just annoyed that Im losing out on 6k
while having to leave anyway I suggest you make a pact with yourself. Stay there only as long as it takes you to save 6K - then leave. That way you've left with 6K and you break out of a job that is fundamentally wrong (for you).
Or go now and move on to bigger and better things. Don't let the job drag you down.
Nothing stays the same. I made a mistake of staying at a previous company after the team changed (old boss left and new one came in and changed the atmosphere in the team and the way things were done and I effing hated it). Should have left immediately but stayed for another 2 years (i know, I know - far too long). In the end it did me far more harm than good.
So. Sit down - get a plan together and go and do it. It may not be possible to do things immediately but you'll feel a lot better for getting organised and being in control.
It's not to be spendingso much of your working day on PH (sorry). It means you aren't getting on with the rest of your life in my opinion.
Or go now and move on to bigger and better things. Don't let the job drag you down.
Nothing stays the same. I made a mistake of staying at a previous company after the team changed (old boss left and new one came in and changed the atmosphere in the team and the way things were done and I effing hated it). Should have left immediately but stayed for another 2 years (i know, I know - far too long). In the end it did me far more harm than good.
So. Sit down - get a plan together and go and do it. It may not be possible to do things immediately but you'll feel a lot better for getting organised and being in control.
It's not to be spendingso much of your working day on PH (sorry). It means you aren't getting on with the rest of your life in my opinion.
I've no idea how old you are, or what your precise contractual details are either, but bear in mind that the statutory minimum redundancy payment is £260 per year of service (at best).
I mention this only because hanging around for the next raft of redundancies doesn't necessarily mean you'll get the £6K.
Plus: Are you able to keep your skills up-to-date, in what is apparently an undemanding role?
But: Are there any other benefits you currently enjoy that are part of your "package"? Health cover? Pension?
ps ianal, and don't take this as encouragement to leave! Just food for thought...
I mention this only because hanging around for the next raft of redundancies doesn't necessarily mean you'll get the £6K.
Plus: Are you able to keep your skills up-to-date, in what is apparently an undemanding role?
But: Are there any other benefits you currently enjoy that are part of your "package"? Health cover? Pension?
ps ianal, and don't take this as encouragement to leave! Just food for thought...
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