quick iTunes help...
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mxdi

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13,994 posts

280 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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Just bought a song off itunes, stupidly expecting it to be mp3, and it wasnt, how do i get an mp3 off itunes? or how do i convert?

cheers

zoidberg

8,889 posts

313 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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burn it to audio cd
then import the cd back onto the computer as an mp3

>> Edited by zoidberg on Thursday 23 February 22:07

skibum

1,032 posts

268 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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I think that if you go into the prefernces section under the Edit Tab, click on Advanced and then Importing, the top menu has a drop down box that allows you to choose MP3 Encoder.

May not be the correct thingy though as only a newbie to all things iPod and tend to get iConfused myself...

skibum

1,032 posts

268 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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zoidberg said:
burn it to audio cd
then import the cd back onto the computer as an mp3

>> Edited by zoidberg on Thursday 23 February 22:07


If its been bought of iTunes will it be protected to stop you doing this? ie changing the format?

mxdi

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13,994 posts

280 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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thanks, tried converting on itunes and it wont do it, says its protected,
I'll try the CD thing though if its the only way, long way round for one song

thanks

Raify

6,556 posts

279 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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Zoidberg is right. the only way to get round iTunes DRM is to burn it to a disc, then re-import. You can burn straight to MP3 format I think. There are 3 options for burning discs, AAC, MP3 and CD Audio.

evil jack

1,649 posts

259 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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You probably know this, but AAC (the audio part of Mpeg4) is much much better than Mp3...

mxdi

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280 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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I didnt know that, I dont know much about file formats and stuff, but I need mp3 to play on my mp3 player in the car, does aac play on mp3 players?

robdickinson

31,343 posts

285 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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mxdi said:
I didnt know that, I dont know much about file formats and stuff, but I need mp3 to play on my mp3 player in the car, does aac play on mp3 players?


Depends on the player, lots of them (including ipods) do.

AAC is more heavily compressed than MP3 typicaly for the same sound quality(or similar).

thebluemonkey

1,296 posts

271 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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Only the ipod will play those files as they are copy protected at the bequest of the music industry. There is a program that removes the copy protection though. I'm sure someone will be along with a link to the program soon enough.

martin350

306 posts

272 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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don't pay i tunes prices go to allofmp3.com average £1 per album better than i tune RIP off prices.and it uses your i tune software to put it on your pod..........

evil jack

1,649 posts

259 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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robdickinson said:
mxdi said:
I didnt know that, I dont know much about file formats and stuff, but I need mp3 to play on my mp3 player in the car, does aac play on mp3 players?


Depends on the player, lots of them (including ipods) do.

AAC is more heavily compressed than MP3 typicaly for the same sound quality(or similar).


Meaning that an AAC file of the same size as it's mp3 counterpart sounds much better, especcially on jazz and orchestral music where there arent so much drums...

mxdi

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280 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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martin350 said:
don't pay i tunes prices go to allofmp3.com average £1 per album better than i tune RIP off prices.and it uses your i tune software to put it on your pod..........

Normally do, however I am looking for b sides, allofmp3 dont sell the singles.

neil.b

6,546 posts

278 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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mxdi said:
I didnt know that, I dont know much about file formats and stuff, but I need mp3 to play on my mp3 player in the car, does aac play on mp3 players?


AKAIK, only an iPod will play songs bought from iTunes Music Store. They're not simply AAC files (if they were, plenty of other player can play them) but are also encoded with FairPlay Digital Rights Management (DRM) which prevents them being played on other players. You can burn them to disc, play them on iTunes or play them on an iPod and I believe that is it.

neil.b

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278 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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thebluemonkey said:
Only the ipod will play those files as they are copy protected at the bequest of the music industry. There is a program that removes the copy protection though. I'm sure someone will be along with a link to the program soon enough.


There's an ongoing project call the Hymn Project (http://hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/) which does just that. However, since the release of iTunes 6.0 and onwards, it no longer works.

I used it on previous versions and it works great but for each subsequent release of iTunes, they are playing catch-up to get the convert working.

There's also another called Bad Apple for Windows (www.badfruit.com/) which i tried a while back an it works really well, though the interface is very sparse. Its also not been updated for a while so I dont know the current status.

xjsjohn

16,152 posts

250 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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I am sure that this is what most are implying ...

But you need to copy the file to a CD as a Music CD format (i.e. it will play on your compact disk in your Hi Fi) then you use your preferred software to rip it to MP3 or your desired format.

Part of the copy protection laws states that any ITunes or other supplier has to have a path that can restore it to a traditional CD media ... Once you have this, you can rip as if its a CD from HMV.

Its hassle, but there is always a way ...

neil.b

6,546 posts

278 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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xjsjohn said:
I am sure that this is what most are implying ...

But you need to copy the file to a CD as a Music CD format (i.e. it will play on your compact disk in your Hi Fi) then you use your preferred software to rip it to MP3 or your desired format.

Part of the copy protection laws states that any ITunes or other supplier has to have a path that can restore it to a traditional CD media ... Once you have this, you can rip as if its a CD from HMV.

Its hassle, but there is always a way ...


To be honest, that's what I do too, on the very few times I've had to do it. I count 3 times that I've bought albums from iTunes Store because the DRM bugs the shit out of me as my Squeezebox can't play them. This is infuriating because the developers have been pleading with Apple to give them the CODEC or whatever to enable the hardware to play back their AAC files. Apple's respons? Fingers in their ears.

thebluemonkey

1,296 posts

271 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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neil.b said:
[quote=xjsjohn]Apple's respons? Fingers in their ears.


Or they don't want the competition after the 28th ,maybe ? please ? well we can hope . . .

_dan_

2,392 posts

310 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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Better still, buy all your songs off allofmp3.com for a couple of pence each and you don't get the crappy protection on your music files then. All you can choose bitrate, format type etc etc.

I've used it for over a year now, downloaded hundreds of songs and probably spent $40 (£25!) if that.

neil.b

6,546 posts

278 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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thebluemonkey said:
neil.b said:
[quote=xjsjohn]Apple's respons? Fingers in their ears.


Or they don't want the competition after the 28th ,maybe ? please ? well we can hope . . .




I know what you're hinting at and its definitely on the cards I think. For me, they're going to have to come up with a pretty spectacular player though. Squeezebox is still the daddy and it keeps getting better and better. Plus Squeezebox is not and never will be at the mercy of DRM which, one must suspect, anything Apple bring out will be.

A few more days and we'll find out