Is Liverpool the scummiest place on Earth?
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Liverpool is like any where else there are nice places where nice people live and bad places where scum live.. this is not particular to Liverpool as few years ago (well more than a few) Leeds had the same reputation for football supporters and the like..
As for Hillsborough - tread carefully there lots of genuine football supporters lost their lives through no fault of their own other than wanting to watch football.. like it or loath it but dont trample on memories!
>> Edited by draft on Friday 24th February 10:58
As for Hillsborough - tread carefully there lots of genuine football supporters lost their lives through no fault of their own other than wanting to watch football.. like it or loath it but dont trample on memories!
>> Edited by draft on Friday 24th February 10:58
Marki said:
As for Hillsborough - tread carefully there lots of genuine football supporters lost their lives through no fault of their own other than wanting to watch football..
like it or loath it but dont trample on memories!
And you are telling us to "tread carfully"
Unfortunate turn of phrase - but I think you understood the point!
Parrot of Doom said:
There are worse places than Liverpool. This is just headline grabbing. Liverpool is a very friendly place.
In fact, Swindon is a shithole. I've been there only once, not a single redeeming feature.
I agree. And Bracknell is even worse than Swindon. So that makes Liverpool atleast number 3
derestrictor said:
Parts of Liverpool are in desperate need of rennovation but then so was much of East Manchester which is now cocktail carvery central.
It is, of course, all the fault of Red Robbo in the 1970s.
Would that be renovation in the sense of "come in blue leader target selected"?
nonegreen said:
Parts of Liverpool are in desperate need of rennovation but then so was much of East Manchester which is now cocktail carvery central.
It is, of course, all the fault of Red Robbo in the 1970s.
Would that be renovation in the sense of "come in blue leader target selected"?
"Come friendly bombs and fall on Liverpool, it's not fit for humans now."
slapmatt said:
First Hillsborough, now this.
Liverpool supporters condemned for attacking Smith ambulance
You are totally out of order comparing these morons to what happened at Hillsborough. I suggest you do some research on the subject as you will find that South Yorkshire Police were more guilty than any Liverpool fan.
And I'm a devout Arsenal fan by the way.
IS LIVERPOOL THE SCUMMIEST PLACE ON EARTH?
Er no. We've got a population of 500,000. I'd say that maybe 50 people were attacking the ambulance? Nearly 50% of Liverpool FC Supporters are not from Liverpool so maybe we can assume that 25 'Scousers' were involved.
Hardly evidence enough to condemn an entire city.
Don't be narrowminded, believe everyhing the media tells you and tar everyone with the same brush. Instead come and visit Liverpool and make an informed decision. Every place has good and bad areas populated by good and bad people. It's often a small minority of bad people that make the headlines unfortunately.
Er no. We've got a population of 500,000. I'd say that maybe 50 people were attacking the ambulance? Nearly 50% of Liverpool FC Supporters are not from Liverpool so maybe we can assume that 25 'Scousers' were involved.
Hardly evidence enough to condemn an entire city.
Don't be narrowminded, believe everyhing the media tells you and tar everyone with the same brush. Instead come and visit Liverpool and make an informed decision. Every place has good and bad areas populated by good and bad people. It's often a small minority of bad people that make the headlines unfortunately.
MJK 24 said:
Don't be narrowminded, believe everyhing the media tells you and tar everyone with the same brush. Instead come and visit Liverpool and make an informed decision. Every place has good and bad areas populated by good and bad people. It's often a small minority of bad people that make the headlines unfortunately.
This is my experience of virtually everywhere.
For example. People unversally agree that New Jersey is a horrible place. Well if all you do is land in Newark and head north on I95 it certainly looks that way.
Its actually a beautiful state - spent a happy year living there in "smalltown NJ".
But it doesn't make for a fun or entertaining post. I am sure that all the (very nice) Liverpudlians I have ever known have more than thick enough skin to shrug off the obvious nonsense...
derestrictor said:
Parts of Liverpool are in desperate need of rennovation but then so was much of East Manchester which is now cocktail carvery central.
It is, of course, all the fault of Red Robbo in the 1970s.
Careful your tumbling into a contensous issue there.
While i agree - the council and Registed Social Landlords are embroiled in profiteering schemes holding back renovation.
in Liverpool, in the Welsh Streets area the community is divied over what needs to be done. - in some streets you have RSLs who have closed off the houses, and boarded em up while they wait for the council to get funding to pull em down, and build new houses that the RSLs can charge more for and the council can gain more revinue from the new houses being in a higher council tax band - while those still under private ownership are complusary purchased with just the bear minium price paid for their homes.
People are being blocked from buying the council owned and RSL owned houses - as they need to show the houses are 'low demand' to attract funding for their demolision. Yet there is a long waiting list from people wanting to buy and renovate the houses.
There was a scheme a couple of years ago to test the market - which had individuals and small developers buying up 1-5 houses to do up, but the scheme was closed (the Liverpool Civic Trust is looking into taking the council to court over its plans for demolision) Urban Splash was blocked from buying any houses to repeat what they are doing in Salford as it didnt fit in with the 'Masterplan' for the area
Just remember is your money - £1.2billion that is being wasted on throwing home owners out of their houses - under compulsary purchase orders so the council can get its way...
both at a local level and national level you have officals burying their heads in the sand, ignoring the change in the market and demands - with their jobs depending on continuing the myth of housing market failure - low demand, high vacancy rates, and its the houses fault - and the cheapest thing to do is to demolish and rebuild half as many houses - dispite it being repeatedly demonstrated that renovation cost far far less, and gives a better long term return.
The same was attempted in Salford, and what do you have - simple methods - give people back the streets, improve security - gateting the backalleys so only residents have access and the place comes alive, Urban Splash are renovating others into yuppy flats/houses for the city slickers...
Sylvia Wilson was on Breakfast News this week - she is a fellow campainer against the Gov. pathfinder schemes - shes been fighting Pendle Council's attempts at Compulsary Purchase for 5 years - and defeated both attempts at the first stage.
In my area we thankfully stopped plans for widespread demolision in our town last summer at the early stages - for once we where glad we have the worst performing council in Britain (yes even worse than Hull)
dont talk to me about need for renovation with out understanding what that entails - as it has never being a force for good...
some of the worse cases of the need to 'do something' are those areas in which 'something' was done back in the 60's and 70's it didnt work then, and lessions havent been learnt.
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